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Offline Nizari

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« Reply #80 on: Monday 13 May 2002, 17:45 »
Interrupted in red by moderator Fatima. You shall be banned for this spread of an obvious lie in the religion. you know nothing about even the basics: the five prayers. No more of your ignorance will be tolerated here.
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The Quran does not say to pray five times a day!

Five times a day prayers were mad law by Caliph Umar.

The Quran says to pray three times not five times.

Praying five times is another example of you guys ignoring the command of Allah.

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« Reply #81 on: Monday 13 May 2002, 17:50 »
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per sweetheart:
You need to know the types of water that are 'Mutlaq' in order to ensure teh validity of your daily prayers. A Muslim does pray five times you know.


Sweetheart,

How many times do you remember the Prophet anHazoor in a day?

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« Reply #82 on: Monday 13 May 2002, 18:12 »
Sweetheart,

well!
1) what is the answer to - How many times do you remember the prophet in a day?

And, everytime you remember the prophet - DO you do the wadhu with water that is Mutluq?

Obviously not!

2) When you face WEST or Mecca; are you facing the qibla or facing skywards?
ANSWER:Your are facing the sky.
You would be facing the kaba only if the earth was Flat.
Is the Earth Flat - sweetheart?

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« Reply #83 on: Monday 13 May 2002, 19:22 »
Quote from: Devoted
TO THE: "ISMAILI PERSON"


You are just talking about diferences and why they exist??!

Well look at the name that you use! Instead of Saying: Muslim Sister, you chose to say: Ismaili sister.. now why is that?!


Because you know for sure the Ismailis have their own faith that is different from the Muslims.-


I indicated "Ismaili" Sister because I noticed the anti-Ismaili post and wanted to indicate that even though I am Ismaili I am still your spiritual sister in Islam.  I am sorry you took it so negatively, and I would change my name to Muslim Sister immediately except for the fact that I have decided not to waste any further time in a biased, hateful, and exclusive atmosphere.

Allah-Hafiz.

Your Muslim Sister.

P.S.  To all those who have been supporting my efforts to build bridges, thank you.  However I do believe this is a waste of our time.  Anyone who really wants to learn more about Ismailism (and is not just looking to be hateful towards us) can visit the Ismailism yahoogroup mentioned in a previous post (unless it's been deleted like most of our posts get deleted).  Feel free to keep in touch with me.

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« Reply #84 on: Monday 13 May 2002, 19:27 »
This is not becuase you're not trying to see!


Open your eyes and at least think "why are they saying this"


Listen to them at least!

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« Reply #85 on: Tuesday 14 May 2002, 16:07 »
Regarding prayers in the Quran it says:

24:58 -  O ye who believe! Let your slaves, and those of you who have not come to puberty, ask leave of you at THREE TIMES(before they come into your presence): Before the prayer of dawn, and when ye lay aside your raiment for the heat of noon, and after the prayer of night. THREE TIMES OF PRIVACY FOR YOU. It is no sin for them or for you at other times, when some of you go round attendant upon others (if they come into your presence without leave). Thus Allah maketh clear the revelations for you. Allah is Knower, Wise.

11:114 - And establish regular prayers at the two ends of the day and at the approaches of the night: For those things, that are good remove those that are evil: Be that the word of remembrance to those who remember (their Lord):

At least in the Quran, it does not SPECIFICALLY say five prayers.
It does say so in the Hadith, but not all Muslims follow the Hadith.

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« Reply #86 on: Tuesday 14 May 2002, 16:49 »
welcome Farley....

your first post here.

cool to see you around.

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« Reply #87 on: Tuesday 14 May 2002, 17:39 »
Judging from the kinds of posts that appear here I suggest this  particular thread be renamed "Hate the Ismaili's".





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your very first post, and you chose to talk about HATE??
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So let me be clear. As an Ismaili I am not seeking nor do I require sanction, consent, legitimacy or approval from you or anyone regarding the practice of my tariqah. You don't approve? Well too bad. I certainly don't have a problem with your tariqah whatever it happens to be. I respect it and all other tariqahs in Islam. Just don't be a judge of mine. I don't have to prove anything to you nor you to me. Rest assured we will all be judged according to our actions in this world and that is good enough for me. Should be good enough for all of you too.





please, get a friendly manner of adressing fellow muslims on the forum.... remember, this is your FIRST post.....

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