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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 17 December 2002, 01:06 »
Quote from: talib

Since the Jinn are mentioned in the Quran, all Muslims believe in their existence.



I know many people who claim to be Muslims and negate everything about Jinn.. you are just a bit optimistic Talib.

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When Allah created Adam, he ordered all of creation to bow to Adam


I am confident my brother Abdu did not see this…

Where do you Talib find proof in Koran or in Hadith that Allah ordered “all of creation” to bow to Adam ???

More, it is not BOWING that is in the verses, it is Prostrating (can you in English say bowing meaning prostrating?)

I have looked well in the Koran and found the following :



  سورة البقرة - سورة 2 - آية 34

وإذ قلنا للملائكة اسجدوا لآدم فسجدوا إلا إبليس أبى واستكبر وكان من الكافرين

And when We said unto the angels: Prostrate yourselves before Adam, they fell prostrate, all save Iblis. He demurred through pride, and so became a disbeliever.

  سورة الأعراف - سورة 7 - آية 11

ولقد خلقناكم ثم صورناكم ثم قلنا للملائكة اسجدوا لآدم فسجدوا إلا إبليس لم يكن من الساجدين

And We created you, then fashioned you, then told the angels: Fall ye prostrate before Adam! And they fell prostrate, all save Iblis, who was not of those who make prostration.

  سورة الإسراء - سورة 17 - آية 61

وإذ قلنا للملائكة اسجدوا لآدم فسجدوا إلا إبليس قال أأسجد لمن خلقت طينا

And when We said unto the angels: Fall down prostrate before Adam and they fell prostrate all save Iblis, he said: Shall I fall prostrate before that which Thou hast created of clay?

  سورة الكهف - سورة 18 - آية 50

وإذ قلنا للملائكة اسجدوا لآدم فسجدوا إلا إبليس كان من الجن ففسق عن أمر ربه أفتتخذونه وذريته أولياء من دوني وهم لكم عدو بئس للظالمين بدلا

And (remember) when We said unto the angels: Fall prostrate before Adam, and they fell prostrate, all save Iblis. He was of the jinn, so he rebelled against his Lord's command. Will ye choose him and his seed for your protecting friends instead of Me, when they are an enemy unto you? Calamitous is the exchange for evil-doers.

  سورة طه - سورة 20 - آية 116

وإذ قلنا للملائكة اسجدوا لآدم فسجدوا إلا إبليس أبى

And when We said unto the angels: Fall prostrate before Adam, they fell prostrate (all) save Iblis; he refused.
 

In all of those verses, Talib, I only found that the order is to the ANGELS, not to “ all of creation” … I am sure you agree…

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Allah told Iblis that he could do as he wished          

 
Brother once again, where in the Koran do you find that Allah told Iblis he could do what he wished

I am confident you mean those verses of Sourat Saad :

Allah says :

إِذْ قَالَ رَبُّكَ لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ إِنِّي خَالِقٌ بَشَرًا مِن طِينٍ

فَإِذَا سَوَّيْتُهُ وَنَفَخْتُ فِيهِ مِن رُّوحِي فَقَعُوا لَهُ سَاجِدِينَ

فَسَجَدَ الْمَلَائِكَةُ كُلُّهُمْ أَجْمَعُونَ

إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ اسْتَكْبَرَ وَكَانَ مِنْ الْكَافِرِينَ

قَالَ يَا إِبْلِيسُ مَا مَنَعَكَ أَن تَسْجُدَ لِمَا خَلَقْتُ بِيَدَيَّ أَسْتَكْبَرْتَ أَمْ كُنتَ مِنَ الْعَالِينَ

قَالَ أَنَا خَيْرٌ مِّنْهُ خَلَقْتَنِي مِن نَّارٍ وَخَلَقْتَهُ مِن طِينٍ

قَالَ فَاخْرُجْ مِنْهَا فَإِنَّكَ رَجِيمٌ

وَإِنَّ عَلَيْكَ لَعْنَتِي إِلَى يَوْمِ الدِّينِ

قَالَ رَبِّ فَأَنظِرْنِي إِلَى يَوْمِ يُبْعَثُونَ

قَالَ فَإِنَّكَ مِنَ الْمُنظَرِينَ

إِلَى يَوْمِ الْوَقْتِ الْمَعْلُومِ

قَالَ فَبِعِزَّتِكَ لَأُغْوِيَنَّهُمْ أَجْمَعِينَ

إِلَّا عِبَادَكَ مِنْهُمُ الْمُخْلَصِينَ

قَالَ فَالْحَقُّ وَالْحَقَّ أَقُولُ

لَأَمْلَأَنَّ جَهَنَّمَ مِنكَ وَمِمَّن تَبِعَكَ مِنْهُمْ أَجْمَعِينَ

But where do you find here that you stated above ??

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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 17 December 2002, 01:56 »
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I am confident my brother Abdu did not see this…



May Allah love you ABDULLAH my brother, you are right  :bro1

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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 17 December 2002, 02:46 »
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May Allah love you ABDULLAH my brother, you are right  :bro1


habibi ya ABDU

I love you fillah. I love you wallah.

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« Reply #13 on: Friday 20 December 2002, 12:01 »
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I am confident my brother Abdu did not see this…


JazakAllah for correcting my mistakes.

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« Reply #14 on: Friday 20 December 2002, 12:51 »
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Hadith - Sahih Bukhari 4:533, Narrated Jabi bin 'Abdullah    

The Prophet  said, "Cover your utensils and tie your water skins, and close your doors and keep your children close to you at night, as the Jinns spread out at such time and snatch things away. When you go to bed, put out your lights, for the mischief-doer (i.e. the rat) may drag away the wick of the candle and burn the dwellers of the house."    Hadith - Sunan of Abu Dawood, Narrated Abu Sa'id al-Khudri
Muhammad ibn AbuYahya said that his father told that he and his companion went to AbuSa'id al-Khudri to pay a sick visit to him. He said: Then we came out from him and met a companion of ours who wanted to go to him. We went ahead and sat in the mosque. He then came back and told us that he heard AbuSa'id al-Khudri say: The massenger of Allah  said: Some snakes are jinn; so when anyone sees one of them in his house, he should give it a warning three times. If it return (after that), he should kill it, for it is a devil.

 
 

Ali said on the pulpit in the mosque of Kufah: When Friday comes, the devils go to the markets with their flags, and involve people in their needs and prevent them from the Friday prayer. ...

 
 والله اعلم واحكم :bro1

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« Reply #15 on: Friday 20 December 2002, 14:13 »
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Humans are not animals! They are also one of the creations of Allah.

Men and women are one of the creations of Allah. They are distinct from plants, animals, jinn, and angels. They were created after angels and jinn; the first man was created from clay. Allah puts a soul into man but in no way is man's soul Allah, or "a part of Allah". The first man was Adam and all human beings come from his family. Adam had no mother or father; he was created and given life by Allah. Allah created a wife for Adam who bore his children. Allah created the human beings to order them to believe, profess the truth about Allah and His messengers, worship Allah only, and follow His orders during life on earth. Some of mankind has and does worship Allah correctly, obeys His orders, and will be rewarded beyond imagination. Some of mankind has not and will not worship Allah correctly and will be punished by Allah with severity in Hellfire.


may Allah bless you bro devoted and enhace your  knoledge in Islam.
may you always be devoted to Islam. :ulv1

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« Reply #16 on: Saturday 21 December 2002, 06:13 »
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JazakAllah for correcting my mistakes.



welcome to our forums on http://www.TalkAboutIslam.com Talib….

And the thanks go to Wael and SadaQa who are assisting my dear ABDU in animating this thread…. ;-)

 



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