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Apostasy (Riddah)
« on: Monday 04 February 2002, 13:16 »
Types of Apostasy (Riddah)

It is obligatory upon every Muslim to preserve his faith in Islam and protect it against whatever invalidates, abolishes, and interrupts it, namely, apostasy (riddah); we seek refuge with Allah, ta^ala, from it.

The meaning of what an-Nawawiyy and others said is: "Apostasy is the most abhorrent type of blasphemy." In this age it has become common to speak carelessly to the extent some people utter words which turn them out of Islam, and they do not deem such words sinful despite them being blasphemous. This is asserted by the saying of the Prophet, sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam: "A person may utter a word he thinks harmless, which results in his falling the depth of seventy years into Hellfire." This hadith was related by at-Tirmidhiyy who classified it as a hasan1 hadith. A hadith related by al-Bukhariyy and Muslim has a similar meaning. This hadith is evidence it is not a condition for a person to commit blasphemy that he must have learned the judgement per se or that he must have liked or believed the meaning of the uttered blasphemous words--as falsely stated in the book called Fiqh-us-Sunnah. It is also not a condition for falling into blasphemy that one is not angry when uttering blasphemy. Imam an-Nawawiyy said: "If a man was angry with his child or slave and hit him severely, then another person asked him, 'How could you do this? Aren't you a Muslim?' and to that his deliberate answer was 'No,' he blasphemed." This was said by Hanafiyy scholars as well as others.

An-Nawawiyy and other scholars among the four schools (madhhabs), classified apostasy into three categories: beliefs in the heart, actions committed by different parts of the body, and sayings with the tongue

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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 05 February 2002, 18:20 »
Well said.

Unfortunatly, this kinf of information has been put to last priority, in fact some say: why spend time to learn such matters!! Where the fact is everyone must know this informat.

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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 10 February 2002, 11:56 »
Salam!!
ookkkk, but when somone says something out of anger... is he accountable for it? I don't mean the normal anger... but sometimes a person reaches a point where he doesn't really realize what he says. Such anger is the anger that doesn't affect the talaq for example! Ya3ni, after the person is calm again and you tell him that you said such and such, he won't remember it... is that person to be considered a Kafir too?

I see from your post that Kitab Fiqh Assunnah is considered to be a devious and wrong book too! what other books do you people consider as wrong? or let me say, what writers do you consider as not trust worthy to take knowledge from... 'known ones'. So far from what i read, i have three names "Sayyid Sabiq, Sayyid Qutub, Ibn Taymia, Ibn Uthaymeen"... :sf1 could you please mention some more of those writers that are considered to be Kuffar for you people?

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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 February 2002, 22:27 »
Hey khaled,

here I am again ;-)

alright, as far as i know, if someone is angry and he said something Kofor,  knowing what he is saying, it's Kofr. Angry is not a reason. However, if he was not knowing what he is saying, and he doesn't remember what he said, then it is not Kofr, because if you ask him did you say that he says no, he doesnt even remember he said that, not during the time he is mad , not after, he is not accountable for that.


Note:Khaled we don't make takfeer for people for nothing, when we have a proof that they did or said something Kofor, then we say they are Koffar!

Best wishes to everyone

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« Reply #4 on: Friday 01 March 2002, 08:14 »
i know i am to late
but... better late then no reply

I learned that anger is not an excuse: imagine in a case
you insult your a race they attack you in court and you will say to the judge : excuse me, judge i was so angry
or : i didnt know it was not permitted
or : i didnt ment to say that

would you think that the judge would accept this kind of excuses?
What about somebody is insulting the religion of someone els who is muslim  or he says the shahaada but he insults Allah ta3ala! how can we call him muslim.

Some ignorant ppl will say, let Allah judge not you or me, well i wonder what they would say about the aya: "kuntu khayra ummati ukhrijat linnaasi ta'muroona bil ma3roofi wa tanhawna 3anil munkar"

We judge the external, what he say, he does, .... but not his heart we dont know if he is sincere or not.

There is such as Ta7deer al waajib:

My sheykh told me a story in french but i will translate it in english know that my english is not good...
a woman asked advice to the messenger of Allah sallallahu ^aleyhi wa sallem for mariage. (i forgot thename of the two ppl) the messanger of Allah said dont mary a bec he beats his wifes and dont marry b bec he is to poor , marry c.

You think if a and b listen that, they would be happy? no they dont gonna be happy ?? no of course .

Imagine when you go at a store and you will buy something but the shopkeeper is knowen as a saariq and i say to you , dont buy with him bec he is not honest  i think the majority of the ppl will be happy.
Also in the religion when somebody is selling lies about islam its the duty to say to him stop with that came back many times and if he doesnt come back and persitate in his kufr than you must warn the ppl from him.

In islam there is no place for own opinions
1) Quran
2) Sunnah
3) ijma'
4) Qiyaas
where is own opinions????? makaan wallahi makaan!!!!
when you have a problem with your car a normal man/woman goes to a garage and if you go with somebody who doestn know anything about it he would say, i dont know go with a mechanician , akeed??
Well why if someone has a question about the religion everybody give his own opinion??? thats haraam and in some case kufr wal 'iyaadza billah.

Al Hamdulillah we have nice knowledgeable imams masha Allah benefit from them learn, and teach

wallahu 'alamu wa a7kam

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« Reply #5 on: Friday 01 March 2002, 15:49 »
:apl1 :apl1 :apl1

good job brother Muhamad, masha'Allah you did a wonderful job on this post (as well on all the others ;-))

and you are 1000000000% right, I agree with you (Y)

Masha'Allah, keep it up



BEST wishes

Salam

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 10 April 2002, 02:55 »
May Allah bless dear sister True muslim :bh1 :bh1

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 10 April 2002, 18:17 »
Ameen, May Allah Bless you too sister, and grant you paradise :bh1 :lvlv1 :bh1

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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 04 August 2002, 10:25 »
Knowing everlasting enjoyments await the Muslim in Paradise and everlasting torture in Hellfire awaits the one who dies a non-Muslim should make every Muslim anxiously prioritize holding tight to his Religion.  The one who is desirous of having his ending a good one will do his utmost to comply with all what is obligatory upon him and avoid what is forbidden, and above all, will endeavor to avoid anything which will invalidate, interrupt, and terminate his Islam--namely apostasy. Of greater priority is warning the Muslims against what would take them out of Islam and lead them to be one of the eternal inhabitants of Hellfire over other issues in the Religion with less drastic consequences.  For this reason, the scholars of Islam included chapters on apostasy in their books to elucidate what causes a person to commit apostasy and the judgments concerning him, in an effort to warn the people from committing any of it. The one who does not know evil is more likely to fall in it, and the one who learns the chapter of apostasy would have his eyes open and his heart guarded to avoid committing this grievous sin.

Imam an-Nawawiyy defined apostasy as interrupting Islam by an intention or by a blasphemous doing or by a blasphemous saying--whether or not it was said mockingly, out of stubbornness, or out of conviction.  He said apostasy is the most abhorrent type of blasphemy. For one to have been Muslim, then to apostate from Islam is the most vulgar of sins.  It is a heinous crime and its committer deserves the everlasting torture of Hellfire should he die without repenting from it.

Scholars of the four schools (madhahib) classified apostasy into three (3) categories: beliefs in the heart, actions committed by certain parts of the body, and sayings with the tongue.  Ar-Ramliyy, from the school of Imam ash-Shafi^iyy, classified apostasy into these three categories and gave examples of each in his book, Explanation of Minhaj, as did Imam an-Nawawiyy in his book, Rawdat at-Talibin.  Qadi ^Iyad and Imam Muhammad ^Ulaysh from the Malikiyy school gave examples of these three (3) types of apostasy. Likewise did Imam Ibnu ^Abidin and Badr arRashid from the Hanifyyy school and Imam alBuhutiyy from the Hanbaliyy school.  Ibn asSubkiyy said in his book At-Tabaqat : " Imam Al-Ash^ariyy , his students and all Muslims do not disagree upon that he who says a blasphemous word or he who does a blasphemous doing is a blasphemer ( kafir). He is not a believer in Allah, and he shall remain in Hellfire forever, even if he knew the truth in his heart. This is a case of scholarly consensus; not even two Muslims would disagree on that matter.

The Muhadith, Hafidh, Faqih and Linguist Murtada Az-Zabidiyy said: " the scholars from the four schools (madhhab) authored in exposing the types of apostasy."

The scholar's classification of apostasy into these three categories facilitates one's learning and understanding of the subject--thereby making it easier to avoid falling into it. Classification as such can be easily understood from different ayat in the Qur'an.  In Surat al-Hujurat, Ayah 15, Allah said:



which means: [The believers are those who believe in Allah and His Messenger, and they do not doubt in that belief.]  This ayah reflects that category of apostasy pertaining to beliefs in the heart. In Surat Fussilat, Ayah 37, Allah said:



which means: do not prostrate for the sun or the moon, rather prostrate for Allah Who created the sun and the moon.] This ayah reflects that category of apostasy pertaining to actions committed by different parts of the body. In Surat at-Tawbah,

Ayah 74, Allah said:



which means: [They swear by Allah that they did not utter, and they have said the word of blasphemy and blasphemed after having been Muslims.] This ayah reflects that category of apostasy pertaining to sayings.

Each one of these three categories of apostasy is divided into many subdivisions, and the scholars gave many examples of each.

An example of the first category of apostasy--beliefs in the heart--is for one to have doubt in the existence of Allah or doubt in the message of Prophet Muhammad.  Also blasphemous is to doubt in the message of any of the messengers or prophets of Allah known to be a messenger or a prophet by the layman and the scholar alike, such as Adam, Ibrahim, ^Isa, or Musa.  Doubting in the revelation of the Qur'an to Sayyidina Muhammad is blasphemy, as is doubting about matters such as the Day of Judgment, the existence of Paradise and Hell, or other such matters upon which there has been scholarly consensus, such as Reward and Punishment.  Doubting in matters which are not commonly known among the Muslims--layman and scholar alike--like the existence of the Basin (Hawd) that the believers will drink from prior to entering Paradise, is not blasphemy except if one was stubborn about it in that he knew this matter is part of the Religion and still denies it.

Included in the category of apostasy pertaining to beliefs in the heart is to believe anything other than Allah exists without a beginning.  This was the belief of the Greek philosophers, and following in their footsteps, Ibn Taymiyyah, who said the kind of the world exists without a beginning. Only Allah exists without a beginning and His attributes are eternal and everlasting and do not change. Everything else is a creation of Allah and has a beginning to its existence.  Qadi ^Iyad, alMutawaliyy, and Ibn Hajar al^Asqalaniyy, and others established the scholarly consensus (ijma^) on the blasphemy of he who believes the world exists without a beginning.

Renouncing any of the attributes of Allah, known by ijma^ He is attributed with--such as knowing about everything is blasphemy. Also blasphemous is he who renounces that Allah is attributed with Power, Will, Knowledge, Hearing, Sight, or Speech (Kalam). Renouncing any of these attributes of Allah is blasphemous because the mind alone is sufficient in knowing that Allah must be attributed with these attributes, i.e., these attributes are a condition for the status of Godhood and as such, one is not excused by ignorance.  Ibn alJawziyy said:  "There is consensus on the blasphemy of he who negates Allah has power over everything."

He who believes that Allah resembles any of his creations in His Self, Attributes, or Doings has blasphemed.  The one who believes Allah is a body or an illumination, or believes Allah exists 'above' in the heavens, or that He sits on the throne is a blasphemer. All these are attributes of the creation and are non-befitting to attribute to the Creator. If Allah was attributed with such attributes, He would have similars from among His creations, and Allah said in the Qur'an:



which means: [Nothing is like him.] If Allah was a body, He would be susceptible to the things all bodies are susceptible to like change, divisibility, and annihilation--all indications of shortage or weakness and nonbefitting to attribute to Allah.


The second category of apostasy, i.e., actions committed by different parts of the body, includes prostrating to an idol, or prostrating to the sun or the moon, or prostrating to any other creation with the purpose of worshipping it. Another example of apostasy of actions is knowingly throwing the Book of the Qur'an in the garbage, and likewise any papers containing Islamic information, as said by Ruyyaniyy and others, because this action displays mockery for the Religion.  It is blasphemy to throw a paper on which is written a name of Allah, provided the thrower knows it is a name of Allah and is conscious of the fact when he threw the paper.

The third category of apostasy is that of sayings and the scholars said this category contains the most numerous cases.  The Prophet said: <<Most of the sins of the sons of Adam are from his tongue.>> Among these are great sins (kaba'ir) and blasphemy. In this age it has become common that people are so negligent and careless with their words to an extent some would utter words which turn them out of Islam, yet they do not deem such words sinful despite them being blasphemous. This complies with the saying of the Prophet, sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam, related by at-Tirmidhiyy:  <<A person may utter a word he thinks is harmless, which results in his falling the depth of 70 years into Hellfire.>>  The depth of 70 years falling is the bottom of Hellfire, and it is a place that only the blasphemers will reach. This hadith is explicit in showing uttering a word of blasphemy renders a person a non-Muslim--even if he does not deem that word harmful or a sin as such.




Apostasy is not an easy issue, and not one to be taken lightly.  Many judgments are incurred on the one who apostates from Islam.  Some examples are:  the apostate's fasting and Dry Purification (Tayammum) are invalid; it is not permissible to eat the meat he slaughters; his wealth not inherited, nor does he inherit; his marriage contract to a Muslim or non-Muslim is not valid.  Moreover, the apostate loses all the reward of all the good deeds done prior to his committing apostasy, though all his sins remain.  These sins are not erased for him should he go back to Islam, but rather require a separate repentance.  Who among the people can afford to have all his good deeds done and rewards earned erased by apostasy, to stand on the Day of Judgment with only his sins to be weighed?



Praise be to Allah.
May Allah bless us with a good ending.
and Allah knows best.

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Re: apostasy from islam.
« Reply #9 on: Monday 05 August 2002, 00:23 »
Quote from: sadaqa
Of greater priority is warning the Muslims against what would take them out of Islam and lead them to be one of the eternal inhabitants of Hellfire over other issues in the Religion with less drastic consequences.  



I agree masha' Allah plz keep up the warnings

Allah yubarek feekom wa yuyyasser lakom subul al-khier
May Allah bless you and facilitate for you the routes to goodness.


Keep smiling ;-)

 



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