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married man searching for a second wife
« on: Thursday 01 December 2005, 20:44 »
assalamou 3alaykom
first i am not the man i am the first wife lol

I want to talk about let say most men this days who are searching for a new wife:
( some men are innocent and married to monsters i know but i am talking about the ones who are not, so cool down guys i just want to make you laugh)

1- they will say: my wife is a monster she treats me very bad she doesn't love me ( tears and tears) ( he just feels old and want to feel young again)
2- i just want a pious woman ( most of them think about bed only sorry but true usually they marry their secretary this is a big excuse to make woman like him lol)
3- she doesn't have sex with me ( maybe she is during the period or sick or most comman she is exosted from searving him and running after his children or he told her 2 words broke her heart) ok i will tell you this story about a guy who met a woman and told her she doesn't want to have sex with me her period last for 10 days!! so the woman told him you poor guy maybe she is lying so she doesn't want to have sex with you and shar3an the period can last to 15 days just an example!!!
4-she doesn't care about me and only about her children ( those are your children too not the neighbor's if you help her with the children maybe than...)


sorry guys i know i am rough on you but i just want to laugh and give you somehting to talk about, i want your opinion and women too welcome i am not against finding second wife but the lies the men use about their first one that is all
and bouriktoum

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Re: married man searching for a second wife
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 11 December 2005, 13:31 »
"inna ba3da althanni 2ithm"
"tahsinou althan yahtajou 2ila zaka2 wa 2isa2at althan you3inouka 3alayha alshaytan"

I find your post hiding a lot of frustration and anger and you think badly of a lot of Muslim men. if you read it through it seems  from the first glance that you come out saying that in the case of a man with a wife looking for a second one it's either he is a monster or she is. when you said "I want to talk about let say most men this days who are searching for a new wife:
( some men are innocent and married to monsters i know but i am talking about the ones who are not, so cool down guys i just want to make you laugh)" and you go on about your stories about these men.

you said something like  :"some men are innocent and married to a monster, but I am talking about the ones who are not" who in your opinion lie in order to get a second wife.

So you don't leave any place for the people who want to get married because it is a sunnah to have more than one wife? Sheikh 3Abdullah said what means " why do you leave out this sunnah?"

All that I see in your post is anger and disappointment.

I myself have heard stories similar to what you are relating about a minority of men who lie, who usually did not learn the obligatory islamic knowledge, but you truly did not leave a place for regular people. for you it's either the first wife is truly bad, or the husband is bad. you don't mention a situation where both are good. in fact you generalise in a wrong, racist, unamicable fashion. you make a statment that either he is or she have a bad attitude towards each other, which leads to him getting a second wife.

I don't want to argue with you and I know your post is a direct response to my thread, I find arguing with people in this subject rarely leads to a result because most women who object on the second wife had a bad experience and they come out for revenge, but for your sake and everyone else on this forum please reread your post with an open mind and a truthfull conscience. A man can marry up to four wifes, not you, or the type of men you mentioned (the very few who lie), or anyone has the right to object to that. point. p o i n t. end of discussion.. Allah gave the men who fulfill the condidtions to have up to four wives. No one has the right to say anything negative about this religious fact. if you have a problem with your husband talk to him and try to solve it and if you can't live with him ask him to divorce you and let's see what you can do without a man in this tough world. Prove yourself as an independant strong person. Relieve us from your negative experiences. I have a question: Were you forced to marry this man?
Every waliy of a woman and every man they all need to examine their situation: who am I marrying or marrying my daughter to? is he or she going to treat the other in an acceptable manner? you will find that most men who lie in order to convince a woman to what they think is marriage do not have the correct belief in the first place. which means the woman and her waliy did not study his situation at all. they only thought of his money. or his position in the social  and financial life. or iif he is sexy and attractive. I know about a few who have this situation. one woman once told me she wants a white skin blonde guy with blue eyes riding a Ferrari, but she didn't mention at all if he prays or if he knows halal from haram.

I'm not laughing nor amused from your uneducated post. In your dividing husbands and wifes into these two categories you totally ignored, willingly or unwillingly, the gategory where both are good.

How come the woman he is trying to make his second wife believes him? is she that simple minded? doesn't she have any life experience? believe me they know he is making stories, but he has lots of money and they see dollar signs. and how was he able to sit with her and talk about these private things? all alone ina corner? without the presence of her family? no one to protect her? what is this woman who sits with a stranger all alone and talks about his sex life????????? or on the phone??? or chatting?????   is there no shame??????? where are their values????? she discusses his sex life with his wife, or the lack of it just like that with her father present? or between each other??? and any woman who hears a stranger talk badly about his wife needs to know that if the situation repeats itself, he will talk badly about her. that is common sense.....Women are too smart to appear as you show them in your post, as simple minded beings that you can trick into a life altering decision with an uncertain ghibah making husband.

And intercourse is an important reason to get married and lack of it is a true reason for a man to divorce. And a clear proof that having intercourse is important for men is the severe punishment that Allah has for those who have sex without being married if they do not repent from their sins. A good wife will find time, will organise her life to have 10 minutes every three days to relieve her husband and empty his sperm reserve ( I didn't want to use big words). it takes 5 minutes sometimes. 5 minutes every three days???????????????????????????? Is that too hard???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? the man works 10 hours a day and gets her thousands of dollars worth of jewellery and she can't give him a quick 5 minutes intercourse every 72 hours????????? no wonder many men are lost in this 21st century. you can watch Syrian timthiliyat and Oprah for six hours every night but sex with the husband is too much????? some women spend hours talking to their girlfriends and making ghibah and thay can't give 5 minutes for the sake of Allah so their husbands won't look for a prostitute?????????????? If your man is weak and might look elsewhere why don't you give him his medicine??????  why do you leave him in need of sex???????? empty his guns and leave him satisfied. it only takes five minutes.......

My reason to have a second and a third wife and a fourth one is sex. I do need a daily dose. I am not ashamed to say that it is an important part in my life. and my wife knows it.
I asked nicely that no one replies to my thread unless they are a serious contender, so you went and opened a new thread with my title and an RE: before it as a reply to me? that is just insulting my intelligence. Please do not use these ill methods. they show low self esteem.


with your post, titled ( Re: married man searching for a second wife )  you are either saying that I am a bad person or that my wife is a bad person, simply becasue I had a post titled ( married man searching for a second wife )

-  go and learn the Mukhtassar instead of waisting your time  -
salam


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Re: married man searching for a second wife
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 11 December 2005, 13:56 »
We know that Imm mohammad is with us with what we said , right imm mohammad ?
its not a joke to laugh about , sorry , we just need to be serious :)

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Re: married man searching for a second wife
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 11 December 2005, 17:10 »
dear everyone
first please i don't want to know about the sex life of anyone.
second, youkal char al baliyatti ma youd7ik and sorry i am a person who like to laugh 
third, marriage is not only about sex, it 's more about 7oussoun al k*oulouk the prophet had more than one wife but he knew how to treat them all, he never married one for some sexuel dose (sorry sad i liked the expression)
and knowing the mouk*tassar doesn't means you are a wally lol
it is about personality, some people assume by learning the mouk*tassar they are awliya'a and i hope cheik* jamil will hear about them lol he will be very very mad!!! (just took a lesson about al taslik still taza)
many moudarissat if you asked them about their husbandsmarrying another wife will tell it will be hard on them, you might tell me than they should give their husband 10 min isn't sad  :wink i would tell you do you help your wife or wives with the house is marriage only a bed no children??? what about responsabilities? can you handle 2 wives or 3 and 6 children or 10 and schools and works and jalousy?
you see this is what i am talking about i am not against segond or third marriage but i am about men who doesn't think rationaly, what if you wife get sick and iddn't give you your daily sexuel dose we throw her and replace her???
where is al mawada wal ra7mah??
what about your children?? Will it be hard on them or we don't htink about them
can you afford 2 wives and 10 children??
and are you a nice husband who knows how to treat a woman? be nice to her help her, or you think marriage is all about sex??
you should know sad i would reply to your posting if i was against you but as a big sister i just wanted to give you an advice like a mom to her son lol hopefully you are small young man or you would make me very old.
and crescent of the moon i didn't understand 
and you have a long name 5 min to type it
finally, if i said anything against religion plz correct me anyone ok i won't be mad 
and thanks

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Re: married man searching for a second wife
« Reply #4 on: Monday 12 December 2005, 15:05 »
dear everyone
first please i don't want to know about the sex life of anyone.
second, youkal char al baliyatti ma youd7ik and sorry i am a person who like to laugh 
third, marriage is not only about sex, it 's more about 7oussoun al k*oulouk the prophet had more than one wife but he knew how to treat them all, he never married one for some sexuel dose (sorry sad i liked the expression)
and knowing the mouk*tassar doesn't means you are a wally lol
it is about personality, some people assume by learning the mouk*tassar they are awliya'a and i hope cheik* jamil will hear about them lol he will be very very mad!!! (just took a lesson about al taslik still taza)
many moudarissat if you asked them about their husbandsmarrying another wife will tell it will be hard on them, you might tell me than they should give their husband 10 min isn't sad  :wink i would tell you do you help your wife or wives with the house is marriage only a bed no children??? what about responsabilities? can you handle 2 wives or 3 and 6 children or 10 and schools and works and jalousy?
you see this is what i am talking about i am not against segond or third marriage but i am about men who doesn't think rationaly, what if you wife get sick and iddn't give you your daily sexuel dose we throw her and replace her???
where is al mawada wal ra7mah??
what about your children?? Will it be hard on them or we don't htink about them
can you afford 2 wives and 10 children??
and are you a nice husband who knows how to treat a woman? be nice to her help her, or you think marriage is all about sex??
you should know sad i would reply to your posting if i was against you but as a big sister i just wanted to give you an advice like a mom to her son lol hopefully you are small young man or you would make me very old.
and crescent of the moon i didn't understand 
and you have a long name 5 min to type it
finally, if i said anything against religion plz correct me anyone ok i won't be mad 
and thanks
Dear sister imm mohammad , first , we are not talking about intercourse only here , our main idea is focusing on marrying another wife ... ! sister if the person are able to marry another and able to afford the fees or the money for both why not !!! ?? the old wife must obey this desicion and no to be mad of him because its a common thing or a known thing in islam everybody knows that, of course you know that in islam this thing is not forbidden, so why she should go mad of her husband ? Al racule mouhammad aliehi al salatu wa salam married more than one thats right ! he was treating them perfect thats right too ! we have no doubt about that ! but why you would think that all the husbands treat their women bad ? ( only the ignorant in islam might do that for example and Allah knows better ) so why ? !! even his/her children should learn the rules of islam to know that their father can marry 4 and its not haram and SHE SHOULD TEACH THEM NOT TO HATE THEIR DAD AND NOT TO STOP TALKING WITH HIM ! the mom can tell her children to be nice and to be bad with their dad ! and i know alot of stories about that ( only the one that Allah rahimahu and the one who fear allah from not doing that ) .....am i clear till now ? and if the person can not afford the money for marrying another ! that is another case ! right ? this is the matter in brief .....
" and sister ! i meant above to be serious not to keep laughing and joking ...." sharul al baliyati ma yod7uk " this saying here have nothing to do with what you says ! sorry ..you should say " Kathratu al da7ek Tumitu al qalb ". " and this is not good at all ! and you should know that sister !
and about that some people when they read Al moukhtacar makes them think that they are awliya2 , i don't think that its true , sorry sister , you are exaggerating ( you are saying much ) here, i live here and its the first time that i hear that ! " linuhacen al zan " allah yubaruki biki ...
plz sister imm mohammad , my reply here to your post is not aggressive , i am sure that you won't take it like that ..
and insha2'allah you will have the ability to write my name as fast as you write your name ..
baraka'allahu bikum everyone ..
salam :)
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Re: married man searching for a second wife
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 December 2005, 15:28 »
Guys and Girls, Small sentences please.

Sad, you are being too into details. We honestly didn't have to draw those mental images.
Unload his Pistol? where did you get that?

Imm Mohammad is not saying a man shouldn't marry more than one, only he should:
a)not hurt his first wife, she probably didn't do anything wrong. so lying to her familly saying she doesn't have sex with him,  is bad
b)To reward her Ihsan(good deeds) with deeds of his own. like helping around with the children.

I beleive she needed a starting point for the topic and since Sad asked for no nonrelevant replies to his thread, she started another one.
I'm sure she didn't mean Sad by all these harsh words. (at least I hope so, as far as I can see, she doesn't know him)

and I agree with COTM (I'll write your name as an acronym) that lots of laughter is not good for the soul

Note: and if I get the ability to marry 2 Women, I might do it.  physical, mental and finantial ability that is.
After all it's like COTM said, it's Islamically allowed, but it may turn into a headach. Jeleosy between 2 wifes (durras) can be dangerouse, even to the husband.
And if Sad watches TV Serian Drama Series(probably w/his wife). he most likly saw a sample.

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and let's see what you can do without a man in this tough world.

Actually these days lots of opportunities are rising for a woman.
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Re: married man searching for a second wife
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 December 2005, 06:00 »
first assalamou 3alaykom
i wonder why i don't hear from women????
i was talking about men who lies to their second wives and i saw lots and lots of them and at the end they treat the second wife like they treat the first ones...
Marrying a second wife or third or 4th demands lots of work and i can't say i am against it cause it is in our religion but some men do it without thinking about the consequences like financial ones and can they handle 2 families?????
lots of children?>?>
are they going to work to treat them equally????????
to tell you the trut guys cause most of you guys this days men are not like the old days sorry but it is true most of them at least.
and about poeple knowing the mouk*tassar and start saying fatawi i saw it so it is not a myth and i didn't imagine it and i didn't say that you guys do it but some people do it.
and sad it is against religion for a woman to ask her husband to divorce her without a sabab shar3i and the guy of the moon forget your name la youkalou dourra ;) rafikatouha lolol[/color
to tell you the truth i rarely see in this days a man treat his wife with i7ssan like helping her with her children or with laundry etc...
someone told me it is 3ourouf this days that the wife cook for her husband, teach children, clean house, etc...
and what about your sisters and daughters? how do you feel if their husbands remarry a second wife?????
wa assalamou 3alaykom

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Re: married man searching for a second wife
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 December 2005, 08:12 »
I just think that Im Mohammad touched on a very contraversial topic. And she just spells it out frankly.
Im Mohammad is most likely a follower of Sheikh Abdullah, but was fed up from the other so many male followers who are justifying so many things to themselves irrespective of whatever ethics, society, and proper manners may dictate. That's a hot topic, should we discuss it openly?
we need and advice Mr Advisor.

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Re: married man searching for a second wife
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 December 2005, 11:31 »
@Imm Mohammed, Please use punctuations.

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Re: married man searching for a second wife
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 14 December 2005, 14:28 »

and what about your sisters and daughters? how do you feel if their husbands remarry a second wife?????
wa assalamou 3alaykom

The answer is ! Do you know the feeling of the WIVES ( not one wife ) When sayiduna mouhammad aliehi salaltu wa salam married another or married on them ?? ??? you don't know how did they felt , right ! nothing i am sure ! , BUT ! i am sure that his wives was deeply pious and humble not to feel mad or sad when sayiduna mouhammad took another !,  right away they had accepted that without brokin hearts or something ...
so who are our sisters and our wives in front of the wives of sayiduna mouhammad aliehi al salatu wa salam ? , they are better than our sisters and our wives ! so we should take heed of them as we take heed of sayiduna mouhammad aliehi al salatu wa salam ! sah ?

i think this answer might feed your questions !
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