Praise be to Allah, and may Allah raise the rank of prophet Mohammad.
Like I said Adi This one won't be over unless you be among the readers of this post who regard you as the most ignorant man to ever log in to TAI
Didn't I tell you that you will never get an answer from these "learned brothers".Aha,their oatience is running short.
Thats a lie I answered every question you asked. Except the one about The Hadith which I will not answer unless you give me a reason, Whats the point?. Apparently you have no reason and you just want to play.
So far I have only spole about unity of the muslims.I repeatedly say that inspite of the differences that exists, we Ahlus Sunnah.Shia and Wahabi are all brothers.
Any Deviant sect must not be allowed to thrive, and Muslims must show the people that this sect is Deviant with proofs.
Ezzuddine Ibnu abdulsalam said what means:
"The Purpose of refuting bad innovations and Neutrilizing it. is not stirring differences (fitnah). Allah ordered scholars to do so"
There were a group Called Karametah (a Batiniyyah group. A fundimantalist form of tekya) who took over the Meccah mosque for years they even stole the Black stone. and when they went in they killed everyone in the Haram and threw their heads in Zamzam I wonder if he considers them his brothers.
Bottom line they were deviants and so are the wahhabies.
We Muslims can't let our releigion be deviated. Islam is a set of rules, beleifs. It's very Sad some people view it as a Middle name Just call yourself muslim and you are a Muslim after all Karametah called themselves Muslims. Khawarij did, Saba'eyyah did(they worshiped Ali).
If there weren't scholars to refute all the above groups' claims they would have been until this day spread all over the world.
You be the judge,have these "learned brothers" ever try to exolain away the differences without calling me as an ignorant.
You deserve the title for saying that Omar have ommitted verses from the Quraan
Is this dakwah?I thought the Qur'an taught us ti call to the way of Allah with wisdom and better arguments.
We tried that, apparently you started to feel cornered so you called me a lier or worse you called Amir El Mo'meneen Omar a lier. and by saying that a verse in the Quraan which talk about Sahabah Applies to the moment it was revealed in. You really Proved that you are just here to make us doubt the Quraan and Sunnah and everything Islamic.
If someone erred than it is the duty for us to show him the way and not condemn them
You know the way. Your fanatism prevents you from following it.
How would these "learned brothers"do dakwah amongst the non-muslims ? The Qur'an says that muslims are supposed to be compassionate with each other and harsh against the enemies.You be the judge!
Non-Muslims? they usually don't disquise themselves as muslims and when you bring a verse of the Quraan they Deviate it Nay cancel it by saying "that was then, but after that they could have gone astry"
Anyway this is typical of those who are lost in their fanaticism and become extreme in their views and behaviour.Asked them have they ever sit with a learned Wahabi or a learned Shia?
Of course we did! The Debates between Ahlussunnah and Wahhabies are all over the net.
You find it in this board if you look for it.
As for Shia I personally have had a very good idea about them they are my neigbours and my colleagues and they know how I view them.
Have these"learned brothers" ever study their arguments?
We Have studied the arguments of Wahhabies. and We can refute it bit by bit.
As for Shia, well it was our concern to stop Wahhabisim from spreading because it's Damage is worse, We know a lot about some Shia beleifs.
Some have beleifs that are blasphemy like I said before. these we know how to refute.
but if you are a sample of a "learned Shia" and All you have is the Tejani lies you "Adopted" earlier. then there are no arguments to study.
They would'nt because in Makkah and Medina itself they separated themselves from the millions who prayed behind the Wahabi Imam! The Shias surprisingly performed the prayer along with the Wahabis who are known to regard them as Kafir! Ah,these "learned brothers" will say the Shias do TAKKIYA!
FYI there are lots of Ahlussunah in Medinah and I know because I was there, all the Wahhabies are part of a Gang that oppresses them.
And I personally testiffy that I Debated a Few Wahhabies Most of them were too stubborn to even listen but some were softer.
Shias shouldn't be proud about Praying behind someone who considers them a Kafir if they had a bit of dignity. because by regarding them Kuffar for reasons like they say Ya Ali or Ya Fatimah they are Non Muslims Like the prophet said.
It will not be long before these "learned brothers"will boot me off from the TALK ABOUT ISLAM forum.Let's see.Insya Allah,you readers will not be deprived of knowledge that you should know. I hope these"learned brothers" will give me the chance.Should they resort to this then you can e-mail me at deviant@shia.com
If we do that we do it for your own good. your fanatism and ignorance are Making you commit Major sins and Most likely worse.
Finnally may Allah guide your heart to the ture path
Waffaqakallah
This Thread is closed. It's more about Muraa Now not Dialogue.