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Offline sofia

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Custody to men
« Reply #10 on: Monday 11 April 2005, 14:16 »
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Chrono of course !!
i can demonstrate that his questions indicates failing us ! or attempting to fail us !!!!


ohhhhh.i thought u were talking abt zahhaad's question...sorry!
cos it was the question just before your post.
Next time you should place a quote so we know who/what you're talking about

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Re: Custody to men
« Reply #11 on: Monday 11 April 2005, 14:49 »
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Islam gives sole custody to men for children under a certain age. Isn't that sexist?

Actually there are details about Custody of a child that I learned last year.
Under the age of tamiiz (when a child understands the questions and knows how to wear his clothing, go into the bathroom and clean himself afterwared, he understands what you ask and knows how to answer then he becomes a moumayez) which is usually 7 or 8 years the Custody is given to the MOTHER...
YES the mother raises the baby till this age. WHY? the teacher told us because she is more mercifull on her child than the father.
this is according to SHafi3i mazhab. see the book "matn ibn shoja3" in the "fasl alhadanah"
If the mother marries while the child is still not a moumayezz still under that age? The grandmother usually becomes the person to take care of him so that the child is protected.
this is not over: when the child is a that age he becomes moumayez and he becomes old enough to understand the question and respond with an answer then what????????
Then he is asked do you want to live with your mother or father?
The child who is a moumayes decides...Usually if there are problems a trustworth Muslim judge asks him and builds using the correct rules of the only true religion, Islam.
so you see you had the wrong idea and you built something without proper knowledge.
During all this time the father is responsible for providing to the child who has not reached the age of puberty according to the rules of the religion. even if the child lives with his mother or grandmother.
If the father is dead or cannot be found the mother needs to feed the child...what can she do? But if the father is available the Muslim judge forces him to perform his religious obligation towards the child even if he is not living in his house (alnafakah)

in some countries some men try to take the child and they spread incorrect information and lie and sadly some courts do not follow the rules of the religion and they are swiming in ignorance.

let's all Please learn we all need to....

your brother Ihab

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Re: Custody to men
« Reply #12 on: Monday 11 April 2005, 17:16 »
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book "matn ibn shoja3" in the "fasl alhadanah"


I went home to make sure I have the correct book title. the book is from Dar el Kheir, not an AICP print house, the title is " sharh ibn kassem elghezzi 3ala matn 2abi shoja3" so his name, this great shafi3i scholar is 2abi shoja3 not ibn I made a mistake. The page is 177. This is the third edition.
the publisher's phone is 01/m10571 in Lebanon
read it it's in Arabic. Please refrain from speaking without knowledge.
I wished that one of you brothers and sisters gave him the correct response early on.

your brother Ihab

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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 12 April 2005, 04:45 »
Baraka'allahu fike Brother ihab ! and Baraka'allahu fiki sister sofia ! next time insha'allah i'll make a quote to be exact ...
Salam !! ^_^

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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 12 April 2005, 12:47 »
i don't know where to start!!
you know in france there is a group for men they are trying to see their children but they can't cause the law give the children to the woman and the men can see their children every other week end!!
is this justice to you !!!
i think the islam was just like always!! the woman have more time and patient for the children, the children stay with their mother until a certain age then the judge ask them if they want to live with their mother or father, but the law doesn't say what the islam says so if you read somewhere something different from that this is because they change the law not because islam say that.
so both parent keep their children but some man use the man made law to take their children from their moms like here in usa some woman do it also they forbid the father to see his children.
But islam kept the children for both parent even if they stayed with one the other has the right to see his children!!

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« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 12 April 2005, 13:02 »
God bless you imm mohamad
Well talking about children , i can also see that you have used your son name in the username you've chosen. Any particular reason pertaining to this matter?

 



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