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Hadith Qudsi no.25 - VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!
« on: Wednesday 22 December 2004, 21:18 »
As-salam ^alaikoum

Does anyone have the correct translation of the hadith qudsi 25 ????

I found one in english but suspisiouc about it.Here's the hadith anyway

On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said: Allah (mighty and sublime be He) said:
Whosoever shows enmity to someone devoted to Me, I shall be at war with him. My servant draws not near to Me with anything more loved by Me than the religious duties I have enjoined upon him, and My servant continues to draw near to Me with supererogatory works so that I shall love him. When I love him I am his hearing with which he hears, his seeing with which he sees, his hand with which he strikes and his foot with which he walks. Were he to ask [something] of Me, I would surely give it to him, and were he to ask Me for refuge, I would surely grant him it. I do not hesitate about anything as much as I hesitate about [seizing] the soul of My faithful servant: he hates death and I hate hurting him.

It was related by al-Bukhari.


Jazakallah Khair

Wa'salam ^alaikoum

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RE: Hadith Qudsi no.25 - VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 23 December 2004, 03:51 »
Dear Akeel Welcome to TAI
first I tell you one of the greatest problems in this world is the leteral translation of some of the verses of Quraan an Hadith.
As you know "figures of speach"  and the likes can't be translated "as is" so every Hadith must be translated by some one who knows the true meaning of the hadith + both the languages
I Don't know what this Hadith is nor what it means especially the last part.

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RE: Hadith Qudsi no.25 - VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 23 December 2004, 09:30 »
What I will say is that it is forbidden to write or post something with a Kufr meaning without stating clearly that it is the words of somebody else or the likes, for example before posting that text you should have said that "such and such a translation said:" followed by the text.

I have taken the explanation to the Hadith you're referring to before, but I sadly am unable to remember it in its entirety and therefore shall abstain from attempting. Suffice to say, whenever you come across such texts you must remind yourself of the basic fundamentals of Islam: things such as it being impossible for Allah to take a form or become a body, and that it is impossible for Allah to incarnate inside His creations. If you remind yourself of these things, you will instantly realize how the text, providing it is authentic, must bear a meaning that doesn't contradict any of these fundamental tenets of Islamic creed.

Following on from this, you must acknowledge with certainty that whatever text you find, Allah NEVER becomes a human hand, NEVER becomes a human foot, and NEVER becomes human senses such as sight and hearing. Any explanation has to fit in with what is acceptable not only in light of the clear verses of the Qur'an, but also in light of the sound intellect.

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Hadith Qudsi no.25 - VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 23 December 2004, 12:37 »
Dont worry bro, i'm Ashari'yy in creed just like almost all ulemas in the past!

Well, does anyone know this hadith in arabic or it's meaning in english, it's very very very important!

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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 23 December 2004, 13:31 »
Of course, there is no doubt that the words of our Prophet are very important, but what's the urgency to know about this one in particular?

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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 23 December 2004, 15:48 »
Abdullah might know this hadith. Me i can't help you.

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 23 December 2004, 15:52 »
I'm debatting on another Islamic forum on Awliyya's and their karamahs. Some people dont really believe in the karamas. They believe in "small ones" (i.e. like telling certain people to read certain dua's for their certain need) but not in the "big ones" (able to fly, take couple of steps and reach a certain destination)....

And I told the other guy that Allah says in a hadith Qudsi : (which means more or less) "... I love him so much (a servant) that I give him power in his body,..."  This is in large the definition of the hadith qudsi no.25 (the one I posted above)  but I want the exact hadith in enlgish because the other guy asked for the exact hadith.

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 23 December 2004, 17:46 »
It might be said, perhaps you should learn the issue first, PROPERLY, before attempting to debate on the topic.

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 23 December 2004, 22:32 »
Quote from: Asad_Cool
It might be said, perhaps you should learn the issue first, PROPERLY, before attempting to debate on the topic.


Asad Cool try to be a bit more "cool" in your answer if you can. What issue are you saying he doesn't understand properly?

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« Reply #9 on: Friday 24 December 2004, 00:12 »
Welcome to TAI, dear Akeel.
I hope someone will be able to help you soon. I'll look it up for you in arabic.
can you understand arabic writing?

 



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