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A devious Person: Bilal Philips folowing Bin Baz deviations
« on: Wednesday 29 September 2004, 01:37 »
Bilal Philips says:

“He has neither corporeal body nor is He a formless spirit. He has a form befitting His majesty, the like of which no man has ever seen or conceived, and which will only be seen (to the degree of man’s finite limitations) by the people of paradise.”

The above statement made by Bilal Philips proves that he is from the mujassima (anthropomorphists), who commit tajsim by attributing a body to Allah Azza Wajal. None of the Sahaba, Tabi’in or Tabi al-Tabi’in, also known as the salaf us-salih (or pious predecessors), said that Allah has a “form” because for anything to have a form, it must be composed of parts, dimensions, and limits. Bodies, parts, dimensions, and limits are all attributes of the weak creation which Allahu Ta’ala, the Majestic, is not attributed with. The ulema of Ahl al-Sunna wa’al Jama’ah use the verse “Laysa ka mithlihi shayy...(42:11)” to refute the false claims of the mujassima. That is, “There is nothing like Him whatsoever...”

Imam Abu Ja’far at-Tahawi (239-321), who lived most of his life in the noble and blessed time period of the “salaf” praised by the Prophet (‘Alayhi-salatu-wassalam) in sahih ahadith refutes the mujassima in his famous Statement of Islamic Doctrine, “Al-Aqida al-Tahawiyya.” Imam Tahawi states in #38 of his Al-Aqida: “He [Allah] is beyond having limits placed on Him, or being restricted, or having parts or limbs....” Such a statement clearly states that it does not befit Almighty Allah to be attributed with a “form,” since parts, limbs, and restrictions are characteristics of anything which has a form. It must be noted that Imam Tahawi lived at a time when both the  direct and indirect disciples of the four Imams of Islamic Law (Abu Hanifa, Shafi’i, Malik, and Ahmad ibn Hanbal) were teaching and practicing. This period was the greatest age of Hadith and fiqh studies, and Imam Tahawi studied with all the living authorities in his  days.

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A devious Person: Bilal Philips folowing Bin Baz deviations
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 September 2004, 01:43 »
Al-Badr al-‘Ayni said that when the mujtahid Ahmad ibn Hanbal died, Tahawi was 12; when Imam Bukhari died, he was 27;  when Imam Muslim died, he was 32; when Imam Ibn Majah died, he was 44; when Imam Abu Dawud died, he was 46; when Tirmidhi  died, he was 50, and when Imam Nisa’i died, he was 74.

Ahl al-Sunna scholars like Imam Muhammad Zahid al-Kawthari have praised  Imam Tahawi for his knowledge in hadith and fiqh. This is agreed upon by Ibn Kathir and Dhahabi also. Ibn Taymiya disagreed with  this consensus as it is a common habit of his in many issues of fiqh and ‘aqida.

Hujjat ul-Islam Imam Abu Hamid al-Ghazali, the renowned Ahl al-Sunna Mujaddid, said in his “Ihya ‘ulum al-din,” under the section  explaining the “Transcendence” of Allahu-Ta’ala:

“He [Allah] is not a body with a form, or a limitary, quantitative substance, not resembling bodies in quantifiability or divisibility, or in being a substance or qualified by a substance....He does not resemble anything  that exists, nor anything that exists resembles Him. There is nothing whatsoever like unto Him, nor is He like unto anything. He is not  delimited by magnitude, contained in places, encompassed by directions, or bounded by heavens or earth....”


What Bilal Philips said: “He has a form befitting His majesty...” means that Allah has a form which is not like the form of the creation.

Furthermore, Bilal Philips said: “He has neither corporeal body...” to mean that Allah’s form is not corporeal like that of the creation, but non-corporeal. That is, he claims that Allah has a non-corporeal body, or a body not like other bodies.

 According to Imam al-Baihaqi,  in his “Manaqib Ahmad,” he relates with a sahih chain that Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal said: “A person commits an act of disbelief (kufr) if  he says Allah is a body, even if he says: Allah is a body but not like other bodies.”

 He continues: “The expressions are taken from  language and from Islam, and linguists applied ‘body’ to a thing that has length, width, thickness, form, structure, and components. The  expression has not been handed down in Shari’a. Therefore, it is invalid and cannot be used.”

One can see that Bilal Philips is in  opposition to what the Shari’a teaches, as the mujtahid mutlaq Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal beautifully refutes his anthropomorphic claims.

Other false claims of the mujassima, in addition to Bilal Philips, are made by other wahhabis also like the late so-called Mufti of Saudi Arabia Abdl Aziz bin Abdullah bin Baz. Bin Baz, in his commentary of Imam Abu Ja’afar at-Tahawi’s “Al-Aqida,” says under footnote #3:

“By hudood (limits) the author [refering to Imam Tahawi] means such as known by humans since no one except Allah Almighty knows His limits.”

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A devious Person: Bilal Philips folowing Bin Baz deviations
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 September 2004, 02:11 »
One can see that Bin Baz, the majassim, says that Allah has limits, when it is clearly stated by Ahl al-Sunna scholars like Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal, Imam Ghazali, and Imam Baihaqi that Allah is clear of any limits whatsoever. The noble Imam Tahawi clearly said:

“He [Allah] is beyond...being restricted...”

He did not say:

“Allah has restrictions which humans don’t know but restrictions which only Allah knows.”

Bin Baz misrepresents the pious Salaf and is following the footsteps of Shaytan by trying to twist the correct explanations of sahih treatises written by Ahl al-Sunna wa’al Jama’ah. Wahhabis are infamous for their mockery and misrepresentation of Ahl al-Sunna scholars.
Furthermore, Bin Baz says in the same footnote:

“Similarly, his [refering to Imam Tahawi] saying “The six directions do not surround Him like all other innovations ” means the six created directions. He does not means the negation of Allah being above His creation and established on His throne because His position is not covered by the six directions, as He is above this universe and surroundings.”

Like Bilal Philips, Bin Baz has also contradicted himself. According to Bin Baz, Allah is not bound by the “created directions,” but then contradicts himself by saying,

 “All the evidence from the Book and the authentic Mutawatir Sunnah prove that He is in the direction above us”

later in the same footnote. The deviation of their intellectc compel them to contradictory statments and the do not heven realized it. Bin Baz is not only contradicting himself, but also lying in behalf of the Qur’an and the authentic Mutawatir Sunnah. The fact is that the Qur’an, Sunna and the Ahl al-Sunna scholars have never attributed a direction to Allah.

A hadith related by Imam Bukhari states:

“Allah existed eternally when there was nothing else with Him.”

This means that absolutely nothing existed, including the throne. Everything that came into existence after once having been in a state of non-existence is a creation which does not possess eternal attributes. The Ahl al-Sunna ulema say that the claim that Allah is sitting on His Throne indeed stipulates a direction because the throne is a creation of Allah, and all of creation is located in “created directions.” Saying that Allah is in the “direction” of the throne is indeed imposing a sensory limitation to Allahu Ta’ala. After all, is the throne not located in a particular direction? The fact is that the throne is located in a certain direction and a certain place. For Allah to be localized on the Throne would mean that Allah is in a place. This opposes the creed of Ahl al-Sunna wa’al Jama’ah. Imam Bukhari, who passed away in 256 AH, believed that Allah exists without a place, as it is authentically stated by Hafiz Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani in his “Fath al-Bari.”

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A devious Person: Bilal Philips folowing Bin Baz deviations
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 29 September 2004, 02:13 »
May Allah reward you sadaqa for warning people from deviant people especially the wahhabies, their  founder was a cursed individual who went by the name Muhammad ibn ^Abdil-Wahhab, eschewing the traditional way of gaining the religious knowledge, he insisted upon abandoning the Isnad which has protected our creed and instead focussed on building a belief based upon erroneous self-research. Obsessed with the writings of the shamed Ahmad Ibn Taimiyah, he copied much of what the latter maintained with regard to the belief in the Attributes of Allah, and annexed to that his own ideas, the likes of which none had claimed before him: such deviant sayings as the banning of Tawassul, and declaring all Sunnis who practise it as being blasphemers wal^iyathu billah :(


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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 29 September 2004, 02:15 »
In addition to Bilal Philips and Bin Baz, other wahhabis have also imposed directions for Allahu Ta’ala, and opposed the sahih creed of Ahl al-Sunna wa’al Jama’ah. Muhammad Khalil Harras, another wahhabi, writes in his translation of Ibn Taymiya’s “Sharh Aqidah al-Wasitiyyah,” page 73:

“The Mutazila deny the vision. This denial is based on refusing to accept Allah in any direction for it is necessary for a thing being seen to  be in the direction of the seer...”

Al-Harras thus claims Allah must be in a direction to be seen in the Hereafter. This makes him a  mujassim like Bilal Philips and Bin Baz. The Ahl al-Sunna scholar Imam Abu Ja’far at-Tahawi in his “al-Aqida” once again refutes this  mujassim by saying:

#35 says: “The Seeing of Allah by the People of the Garden is true, without their vision being all-encompassing and without the manner of  their vision being known....We do not delve into that, trying to interpret it according to our own opinions or letting our imaginations have  free rein.”

Also, remember that “Allah is not contained by the six directions.”

Bilal Philips also opposes the sahih creed of the salaf us- salih like a-Harras by saying:

“He has a form befitting His majesty, the like of which no man has ever seen or conceived, and which will  only be seen (to the degree of ma's finite limitations) by the people of paradise.” (emphasis added),

One clearly sees that this statement of Bilal Philips is based on his imagination and sensory delusion, and it is in opposition to the creed of the pious salaf.

Other wahhabis like Muhammad Saleh al-Uthaymin, shows that he is also a mujassim by saying in his “Aqidat al-muslim” that

“Allah’s establishment on the throne means that He is sitting ‘in person’ on His Throne.”

The hafiz Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani in his “Fath al-Bari” rejected the statement that Allah is on the Throne “in person” as equally preposterous as saying that Allah is everywhere. Ibn al-Jawzi in  his “Daf shubah al-tashbih said:

“They said: He is established on the Throne “in person.” But this addition is not related by anyone!”

Even Sulayman ibn ‘Abd Allah ibn  Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab, the wahhabi founder’s grandson, declared anyone a kafir who used the term “in person” in relation to Allah being in a place in his “al-Tawdih ‘an tawhid al-khallaq fi jawab ahl al-‘Iraq.”

Be attentive that the Ahl al-Sunna scholars in Ibn Taymiya’s time accused him of being a mujassim. Ibn Hajar al-‘Asqalani’s biography  of Ibn Taymiyya in “al-durar al-kamina fi a‘yan al-mi’at al-thamina” [The Hidden Pearls Concerning the Famous People of the  Eighth Century] is sahih dalail (proof) to justify such a claim. Ibn Hajar states authentic statements in his book such as:

“People were divided into parties because of him. Some considered him an anthropomorphist [mujassim] because of what he mentioned  in ‘al- ‘aqida al-Hamawiyya’ and ‘al-‘aqida al-Wasitiyya’ and other books of his, such as Allah’s hand, foot, shin, and face being  litteral attributes of Allah (Sifatun Haqiqiyyatun lillah) and that He is established upon the Throne with His Essence (wa annahu  mustawin ‘ala al-‘arshi bi dhatihi). It was said to him that were this the case He would necessarily be subject to spatial confinement (al-tahayyuz) and divisibility (al-inqisam). He replied: “I do not concede that spatial confinement and divisibility are (necessarily) properties of bodies (ana la usallimu anna al-tahayyuz wa al-inqisam min khawass al- ajsam),” whereupon it was adduced against him (ulzima) that he held Allah’s Essence to be subject to spatial confinement.”

Shaykh ul-Islam Ibn al-Jawzi (508-597), a Hanbali scholar, warned people of the ‘mujassima’ who speak in the name of Ahmad ibn Hanbal falsely in his “Daf shubah al-tashbih be akuff al-tanzih” (The repelling with hands of transcendence of the sophistries of likening Allah to His creation). The wahhabis are not the only mujassima in the history of Islam. The mujassima have existed before them and have been refuted by scholars of Ahl al-Sunna. For example, the scholar Ibn Hibban, who died in 354 AH, was expelled from Sijistan  for refusing to assert limits to Allah. Wahhabis are only reving the tajsim of the mujassima of the past. Today and in the past,  wahhabis have been refuted by scholars of Ahl al-Sunna as the mujassima in the past were refuted by the ulema in their times.

The  Wahhabis are the mujassima of today, and mujassims like Bilal Philips, Abdl Aziz bin Abdullah bin Baz, Muhammad Khalil Harras, and  Muhammad Saleh al-Uthaymin must be refuted in light of the proof provided by the Ahl al-Sunna wa’al Jama'ah, the noble adherents of  the Hanafi, Shafi’i, Maliki, and Hanbali schools of Jurisprudence.

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A devious Person: Bilal Philips folowing Bin Baz deviations
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 September 2004, 02:20 »
wow mashaaAllah , I did not read the last one yet, it looks like we are posting at the same time :D

is there more brother ?

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 29 September 2004, 02:20 »
inshaa Allah next i will continue to talk about A Refutation of Wrong Opinions about Tawassul as Expressed in the So-called "Fundamentals of Tawheed"
and  the book of this devious person Bilal Philips,  “Evolution of Fiqh,”

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 29 September 2004, 02:23 »
yes inshaa Allah sister:) soon

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I am waiting brother , thank you and may Allah bless your eyes and hands :)

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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 29 September 2004, 06:05 »
A Refutation of Wrong Opinions about Tawassul
as Expressed in the So-called "Fundamentals of Tawheed"


Bilal Philips, in his “Evolution of Fiqh,” page 130, says:

“Furthermore, in opposing tawassul...the twentieth century descendants and followers of Ibn ‘Abdul-Wahhaab were attacking unislamic practices.” (emphasis added).

The above statement from Bilal Philips tells the readers two things about him. First, he acknowledges to be a supporter of wahhabees and hence becomes a wahhabee himself. Second, he claims that tawassul is an unIslamic practice. The false claims of Bilal Philips opposes the perspectives of Ahl al-Sunna wa’al Jama’ah, whom make up the majority of the best of Ummahs. To read a refutation of the wahhabee movement, one can read plenty of books by Ahl al-Sunna scholars. “Al-Fitnatul- Wahhabiyya,” by the Mufti of Mecca, Ahmad ibn Zayni Dahlan ash-Shafi’i and “The Beacon of Humanity and the Clarification of Ignorance,” by the great Shaykh Ibn Alawi Al-Haddad. There are hundreds of other books written by other ulema although the aforementioned refutations are sufficient to expose wahhabee deviance. For your reference, here are a few more sources of refutation against the wahhabees: Shaykh Muhammad Sa‘id Ramadan Al-Buti’s “Al-salafiyyatu marhalatun zamaniyyatun mubarakatun la madhhabun islami” [”The Salafiyya is a blessed historical period not an Islamic school of law”], Al-muhaddith Muhammad al-Hasan ibn ‘Alawi Al-Maliki al-Husayni’s “Mafahimu yajibu an tusahhah” [”Notions that should be corrected”], and al-Sayyid Mustafa ibn Ahmad ibn Hasan Al-Shatti al-Athari al-Hanbali’s “al-Nuqul al-shar’iyyah fi al-radd ‘ala al-Wahhabiyya” [”The Legal Proofs in Answering the Wahhabis”]. One will have ample evidence from these sources to prove that Bilal Philips’ defense of wahhabees is tantamount to defending ignorance and reprehensible innovations. Claims that seeking an intermediary between Allah and man is unIslamic are also made by other wahhabee “scholars.” For example: Muhammad bin Suleiman At-Tamimi, in his article, “What Negates One’s Islam,” says:

“Whoever sets up an intermediary between himself and Allah, whom he prays to, seeks intercession from and puts his reliance in, has blasphemed according to the consensus of the scholars.” (emphasis added).


Al-Tamimi is lying in behalf of the majority of scholars because you will read below that the majority of scholars have considered setting up an intermediary between oneself and Allah and seeking intercession a permissible and meritorious act. Al-Tamimi only speaks in behalf of the wahhabees who are in opposition to the Sunni majority. A similar statement is made by the so-called Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Abdl-Aziz bin Abdullah Bin Baaz. Bin Baaz, in his article “Ten Things Which Nullify One’s Islam,” says:

“Setting up intermediaries between oneself and Allah, making supplication to them, asking their intercession with Allah, and placing ones trust in them is unbelief (kufr).” (emphasis added).

What Bin Baaz and al-Tamimi call “kufr,” i.e. setting up intermediaries when asking Allah, is in fact a practice of the noble Sahaba and their pious followers. This will be explained in more detail below. Bilal Philips’ claim that tawassul is an “unIslamic practice” opposes the Qur’an, Sunnah, and consensus of our beloved orthodox Sunni ulema. You will see very clearly how wahhabees mix truth with falsehood, by equating pagan practices with practices of the noble and pious Sahaba, Tabi’een, Tabi al-Tabi’een, and the khalaf whom adhered to their footsteps. This will be explained in more detail below. The defintion of Tawassul is: Supplicating Allahu Ta’ala by means of anintermediary, whether it be a living person, dead person, a good deed, or a name or attribute of Allahu Ta’ala. Tawassul is a “means” Muslims seek, using an intermediary, when asking Allahu Ta’ala for something. One of the many verses in the noble Qur’an which permit Tawassul is: “Allah the Blessed and the Exalted said:

“O ye who believe, fear Allah and seek ye the means to Him” (al-Ma’ida, 34)

 Shaykh ul-Islam Yusuf ibn al-Sayyid Hashim al-Rifa’i, a Shafi’i scholar, former minister of state, educator, Sufi, and author explains the issue of tawassul very clearly in his “Adilla Ahl al-Sunna wa al-Jama’ah.” The following is a translation of part of this book by Shaykh Nuh Ha Mim Keller, a Shafi’i scholar, who added this as a section in his translation of “Al-‘Umdat al- salik” (The Reliance of the Traveller) by Shaykh Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri, a student of the famous Shafi’i mujtahid Taqi al- Din al-Subki. Shaykh Yusuf al-Rifa’i says:

“I here want to convey the position, attested to by compelling legal evidence, of the orthodox majority of Sunni Muslims on the subject of supplicating Allah through an intermediary (tawassul), and so I say (and Allah alone gives success) that since there is no disagreement among scholars that supplicating Allah through an intermediary is in principle legally valid, the discussion of its details merely concerns derived rulings that involve interschool differences, unrelated to questions of belief or unbelief, monotheism or associating partners with Allah (shirk); the sphere of the question being limited to permissibility or impermissibility, and its ruling being that it is either lawful or unlawful. There is no difference among groups of Muslims in their consensus on the permissibility of three types of supplicating Allah through an intermediary (tawassul): (1) TAWASSUL through a living righteous person to Allah Most High, as in the hadith of the blind man with the Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) as we shall explain; (2) The TAWASSUL of a living person to Allah Most High through his own good deeds, as in the hadith of the three people trapped in a cave by a great stone, a hadith related by Imam Bukhari in his “Sahih;” (3) And the TAWASSUL of a person to Allah Most High through His entity (dhat), names, attributes, and so forth.

 



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