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Something about Issa
« on: Saturday 25 August 2007, 04:12 »
salam..

i am just wondering if our knowledgable brothers and sisters can compile a nice nicey article on Issa sallalahu^ alayhi wa sallam :-D
my mom and i want to read it well.   :lol:

like,, what does Qu;ran say about the comin back of Issa before the day of Judgement..
and how he got raised to the sky..

many things about him i havent been clear on.. i would like to know  :wink:

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Re: Something about Issa
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 25 August 2007, 06:55 »
The birth of ^Isa (Jesus) peace be upon him.

The great scholar Ibn Jarir and other scholars narrated that one day, Maryam ran out of water. She asked her cousin, Yusuf, to go with her to get some water. He declined, saying he had his water for that day. So Maryam went to fetch water alone. There, she found Angel Jibril, whom Allah had sent to her in the shape of a man. Thinking he was a human who might harm her, she asked refuge with Allah from him. Jibril told her, ‘’I am the Messenger of your Lord to you. I was sent to give you a pious child who is pure from sins.'' Maryam told him, ‘’How would I have a son? I have no husband, and I am not an adultress or a fornicator.'' Jibril told her, ‘’Creating a son without a father is an easy matter to Allah. Allah will make him for the people a sign of the Power of Allah. He will send him as a mercy from Him and an endowment to the those who follow him and believe in him. Creating him is a matter Allah willed and destined, so it will not be blocked or changed.''
Jibril blew the soul of ^Isa into Maryam and ^Isa’s soul entered into her womb. Maryam became pregnant with ^Isa, peace be upon him. There is a difference of opinion as to the term of her pregnancy. Some scholars said it was nine months long, some said eight, and some said otherwise. However, when the signs of pregnancy became apparent on her, her cousin, Yusuf, the Carpenter, was disturbed and did not know how to interpret that matter. He knew how pious she was, so he could not accuse her of fornication. On the other hand, the signs of pregnancy called for attributing fornication to her. So he decided to open the subject with her. He asked her, ‘’Tell me, would plants grow without seeds? Would trees grow without rainfall? Would there be a child without a male?'' To all these questions Maryam said ‘’Yes.'' Then she asked him, ‘’Did you not know that Allah made the plants emerge without seeds on the day He created them? Did you not know that Allah created the trees the first time without rain? Did you not know that Allah created Adam and Hawwa' (Eve) without a father or a mother?'' Yusuf knew all these things and when she responded in this way, he felt assured of her innocence and that this was something special given to her by Allah .
When the signs of her pregnancy became apparent, Maryam went away from her people. The pangs of birth led her to the trunk of a dead palm tree. Out of her shyness from the people, and fearing they would accuse her of having done an ugly act, she wished she was dead and not a trace of her could be found. Jibril called her to comfort her. He told her that Allah made a small river run under her from which she could drink, and should she shake the trunk of the dead palm tree next to her, it would turn green. Then moist dates would fall down, from which she could eat and be nourished. Jibril told her that when she faced her people with her son to tell anyone who questioned her about him that she had made a vow not to talk to any human for that day. That day, Maryam gave birth to her son, ^Isa, peace be upon him. Forty (40) days later she carried him back to her people. They accused her of having fornicated. In response, Maryam pointed to her son, telling them to talk to him. They were angered at this and thought she was mocking them by asking them to speak with a 40-day old baby lying in a small cradle. At this, Allah made ^Isa  speak. He said:

30 قَالَ إِنِّي عَبْدُ اللَّهِ آتَانِيَ الْكِتَابَ وَجَعَلَنِي نَبِيًّا
   
31 وَجَعَلَنِي مُبَارَكًا أَيْنَ مَا كُنتُ وَأَوْصَانِي بِالصَّلَاةِ وَالزَّكَاةِ مَا دُمْتُ حَيًّا
   
32 وَبَرًّا بِوَالِدَتِي وَلَمْ يَجْعَلْنِي جَبَّارًا شَقِيًّا
   
33 وَالسَّلَامُ عَلَيَّ يَوْمَ وُلِدتُّ وَيَوْمَ أَمُوتُ وَيَوْمَ أُبْعَثُ حَيًّا
 
which are verses 30-33 of Surat Maryam and mean: [I am a slave of Allah. He will reveal the Book to me and make me a prophet. He blessed me wherever I am. In the rules revealed to me there will be a special attention given to Prayers and Zakah. Allah has predestined that I will be kind to my mother and not a tyrant with a bad ending. Peace was on me the day I was born. Peace will be on me on the day I will die and on the day I will be resurrected.]
When Maryam's people heard that, they refrained from harming her or Prophet Zakariyya, about whom they had made ugly accusations. After baby ^Isa  spoke these words, he did not speak again until he became at an age when children normally begin to speak. ^Isa's speaking from the cradle was a preparation and a sign of his creed and coming prophethood, when he would call the people to believe in Allah, the One Who does not have a partner, and to believe in the message of ^Isa -that he was the slave and messenger of Allah. The first words he spoke were, ‘’I am the slave of Allah.''

The ascension of prophet ^Isa (Jesus) to the sky

When Prophet ^Isa  was 33 years old, the blasphemers among the offspring of Israel plotted to kill him, but Allah saved him from their harm. Ibn Abi Hatim and an-Nasa'iyy narrated from the route of lbn ^Abbas that he said:
Prophet ^Isa was in session with twelve of his elite companions in a house. He told them that some of them would blaspheme in the future. Then he asked them, ‘’Who among you would volunteer to be made to look like me, be killed in my place, and be my companion in Paradise.'' The youngest among them stood up and said, ‘’I.'' Prophet ^Isa  told him to sit, then repeated his same question. Again, the same young man said, ‘’I.'' Again, Prophet ^Isa  told him to sit, then asked the same question. After the same young man volunteered for the third time, Prophet ^Isa told him <<you are the one>>. Prophet ^Isa was raised to the sky from an opening in the ceiling of the house. When the Jews came after Prophet ^Isa , they saw that young man, whom Allah made to look similars to ^Isa. They took him, thinking he was Prophet ^Isa and crucified him
It should be noted here there are two widespread false stories about this matter. In one, it is claimed that one of ^Isa's students was paid a great sum of money to lead those Jews to ^Isa . However Allah made this student look like ^Isa , so they thought he was ^Isa and they crucified him. In another, it is said that the person killed in place of ^Isa was the leader of the Jews. Both of these stories are false.
After Prophet ^Isa was raised to the heaven, his nation lived following his guidance, teaching, and methodology for two hundred (200) years. However, the nation of Prophet ^Isa did not remain steadfast to Islam. Many people who claimed to follow the rules of ^Isa perverted those rules and changed the statements of the Injil. Three hundred (300) years after Prophet ^Isa was raised to the sky, those who were following the ones who had perverted the teachings of Prophet ^Isa  became very numerous, and those who were truly following the Religion of Islam were few and weak. After some five hundred (500) years, none of the believing Muslims of ^Isa's nation were left. When Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him began receiving Revelation, he was the only Muslim living among people on Earth, worshipping solely Allah.

Prophet ^Isa's Decent to earth.

Prophet ^Isa peace be upon him, is still alive- in the second heaven- worshipping Allah. He will descend to Earth before the Day of Judgment and his descent will be one of the great signs of the nearing of that Day. Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him informed us that ^Isa  will descend to Earth at a place on the eastern side of Damascus, with his hands on the wings of two angels. He will meet a group of Muslims getting ready to perform the prayer, with the Mahdiyy as their Imam. The Mahdiyy will ask Prophet ^Isa to lead them in that prayer. However, ^Isa will ask the Mahdiyy to stand Imam for them- as a sign that Prophet ^Isa will rule with the rules revealed to Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. After this one time, ^Isa  will lead the people in prayers because he has a higher status than the Mahdiyy.
After he descends, Prophet ^Isa will rule the Earth with the Shari^ah of Prophet Muhammad, the Shari^ah which Muslims are ordered to follow until the Judgment Day. He will kill the Dajjal, an ugly, evil blasphemer who claims himself as God, and who misleads many people to blaspheme. Prophet ^Isa  will perform Hajj and travel to visit the grave of Prophet Muhammad to salute him. He will greet him by saying, ‘’As-Salamu ^alaykum ya Rasul- Allah '', as narrated by Abu Dawud at-Tayalisiyy and others. This means: ‘’Peace be upon you, O Messenger of Allah''.
During his time, the people of Ya'juj and Ma'juj (Gog and Magog) will appear and cause great destruction to Earth and devastation to Muslims. Prophet ^Isa  will take the believers to Mount at-Tur where they will supplicate Allah to relieve them from these people. Allah will answer their du^a' and destroy all the people of Ya'juj and Ma'juj. After that, Prophet ^Isa will rule the Muslims and there will be a time when peace, comfort, and safety prevail.
After he descends, Prophet ^Isa will live for forty (40) years on Earth. He will marry and have children. Then, he will die and be buried. ^Abdullah Ibn Salam said, ‘’It is written in the original Torah that Prophet ^Isa  will be buried next to Prophet Muhammad. '' (in the chamber of Lady ^A'ishah.)

May Allah make us from the companions of prophet ^Isa......If we live till then......Allah Kareem. Imagine being alive during that time and your eyes lay upon prophet ^Isa....What a great honour and endowment from Allah.


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Re: Something about Issa
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 25 August 2007, 09:24 »
A relevant question would be “Was there anybody waiting for the "return" of Easa عليه السلام during 550-600 years before the arrival of Aaqai Namdar Rasool e Karim صلى الله عليه وسلم?”

If not why people of later generations started waiting for the "return of Easa عليه السلام "?

Quran Majeed categorically confirms that People of Book were waiting for Nabi Umee about whom they found written in the Book with them. It means the people of Book were not waiting for Easa عليه السلام during those 550-600 years. Why should we wait?

There are many more questions highlighted in the Book "Return of Easa alaihissalam to world" Haqeeqat Kya Hai” appearing on Urdu site

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http://haqeeqat.org.pk/book_5/index.html

Isn’t it strange that Easa (Jesus-Salaam and peace is upon him) who knew so many things immediately after his birth didn’t know such a remarkable and unprecedented miracle of coming back to earth? He is the only exception to this rule “You knew nothing about anything when you were born”. He was born as a knowledgeable person, which is evident from his address to the elders of her mother’s nation when he was milk-sucking baby.

It is not merely because Easa a.s. had VERBALLY told Bani Israel about the arrival of Messenger, but both Jews and Nisaara knew about it for the reason they found it WRITTEN in Torah and Injeel.
 
Allazina yattabi'u_nar rasu_lan nabiyyal ummiyyal  lazi yajidu_nahu_ maktu_ban 'indah_ fit taura_ti wal injili {Ref 7:157}

YusufAli:"Those who follow the apostle the unlettered prophet whom they find mentioned in their own (Scriptures); in the law and the Gospel;

Rashad Khalifa: “(4) follow the messenger, the gentile prophet (Muhammad), whom they find written in their Torah and Gospel*
{*Muhammad is prophesied in Deuteronomy 18:15-19 and John 14:16-17 & 16:13}

   They were anxiously waiting for the last Messenger.
Allazina a_taina_humu kita_ba ya'rifu_nahu_ kama_ ya'rifu_na abna_'ahum,{Ref 2:146}
Allazina a_taina_humul kita_ba ya'rifu_nahu_ kama_ ya'rifu_na abna_'ahum,{Ref 6:20}

Rashad Khalifa: “Those to whom we have given the scripture recognize this as they recognize their own children”
Yusuf Ali:“Those to whom We have given the Book know this as they know their own sons”

“Recognize” is the best translation of “ya ri funa”. Cognition is the first step in “knowing”, knowledge. We recognize things by comparing it with a thing of similar nature. Book is not compared with sons. We recognize our sons even if they are in the company of a large crowd. They recognized the Messenger in the manner, as no one feels confused recognizing his son. And we recognize a person only when we know about him in advance. “They find written about him (Muhammad) in Torah and Injeel”. That is the sole reason why they recognized the Messenger quite vividly and unambiguously.

Ya_ ahlal kita_bi qad ja_'akum rasu_luna_ yubayyinu lakum'ala_ fatratim minar rusuli an taqu_lu_ ma_ ja_'ana_ mim basyiriw wa nazir(in), fa qad ja_'akum basyiruw wa nazir(un), walla_hu 'ala_ kulli syai'in qadir(un).
O people of the Book! Our Messenger has come to you who make things clear for you, after the break in sending Messengers to you. Messenger has been sent lest you should say (put forward an argument on the day of judgment) “there came unto us no bringer of glad tidings and warning”.  It is for this reason that deliverer of glad tidings and Warning has come to you. And Allah has power over all things. {Ref 5:19}

This excuse could have been brought forward on the Day of Judgment. Since the Last Messenger has come therefore no one can say that he was waiting for a “Meseiah”.

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Re: Something about Issa
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 25 August 2007, 21:55 »
Barak Allah feekoum very clear

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Re: Something about Issa
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 25 August 2007, 23:56 »
Suha, Mazhars posting again is unclear and off track?? From what i understand from his post he is denying the descension of prophet Isa back to earth. Which is the opposite to what the prophet informed us about and opposite to our believe and to what our sister who posted this post.

I have had a similar debate with him about Al-mahdi whom mazhar also does not believe in either, even though prophet muhammad peace be upon him informed us about him. So I am not suprised that Mr Mazhar is now denouncing the return of prophet ^Isa to earth.  After,

1.Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him informed us that ^Isa  will descend to Earth at a place on the eastern side of Damascus, with his hands on the wings of two angels. He will meet a group of Muslims getting ready to perform the prayer, with the Mahdiyy as their Imam. The Mahdiyy will ask Prophet ^Isa to lead them in that prayer. However, ^Isa will ask the Mahdiyy to stand Imam for them- as a sign that Prophet ^Isa will rule with the rules revealed to Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. After this one time, ^Isa  will lead the people in prayers because he has a higher status than the Mahdiyy.

2. Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him also informed us about Prophet ^Issa descend in another hadith. He tells that ^Issa will be a just ruler on earth and will visit prophet Muhammad at his grave when he performs Hajj for the ^Omra. ^Issa will greet prophet Muhammad with “Assalamu ^alaikum” to which the prophet will reply.

3. So Prophet ^Issas return is one of the major signs of the nearing of the day of judgement. Prophet ^Issa is the one who meets with Ad-Dajal in Palestine and kills him. The scholars also mentioned that when prophet ^Issa later dies, the muslims will perform the funeral prayer upon him and bury him close to the burial of prophet Muhammad. Some say that it is to the right hand side of our prophets grave, where there is an empty space today.     
   
4. Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said that: "The day of judgement will occur only after a man from my descendants comes forth. His name is like mine and his fathers name is like my fathers name. He will fill the land with peace and justice as it had been congested with corruption and injustice". This hadith has been related by Ibn-Hibban in his book As-Sahih and by Abu-Dawud in his book As-Sunan and by At-Tirmithy in his book Al-Jami^ and Al-Hakim in his book called Al-Mustadrak, and in turn it was related from the companion Abdullah bin Mas^ud, may Allah be pleased with him, as he heard it from the prophet, peace be upon him.

Mazhar please don’t use the meanings that Yusuf Ali claims is the Quran. Most are inaccurate and actually ‘Kufur’ blasphemous. Because of his weakness in the religion he understood the wrong meanings and strayed.
 

   
I remind Mazhar again to be really careful when choosing his sources and ‘Not’ speak without knowledge.

Insha-allah he will be sami^ and zaahrati will then come his way.
     
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Re: Something about Issa
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 26 August 2007, 00:15 »
oh no brother my "very clear" was to you not mazhar Barak Allah feek i wasnt to knowlageable to answer or correct him

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Re: Something about Issa
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 26 August 2007, 00:17 »
i should have quoted from your extract Aussie Advisor sorry and Barak Allah feek once again

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Re: Something about Issa
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 26 August 2007, 02:00 »
Barakallahu beekom suha

I was just suprised when you said 'clear' whilst Mazhar has posted contrary to what sister Ema correctly believes in and is keen to gather more info about.

Yet, once again Mazhar weaves around here and there from one point to another and not really answering what our sister is asking about.

While revising and learning our religion is most important for all of us. We just need to be careful from whom we are taking our knowledge. In general, we should ask ourselves?


1. How did this person get his knowledge?? Did he or she get the knowledge from the ‘mouths’ of the scholars or just by reading books and surfing the net??

2. Does this person have a ‘Sanad’ for the knowledge he is giving us. In other words, who did he learn from? Did this person learn from those who have the continuos chain of knowledge back to the scholars and our prophet peace be upon him?
 
3. Does this person truly fear Allah? Is she / he concerned about himself and me? Would he speak without knowledge? Has this person ever said something against the scholarly consensus, the hadith or the Quran??

Lets remember what Ibn Sirin said: ‘This knowledge is religion so watch from whom you take your knowledge from”.

Brothers and sisters, while religious discussions with ‘reliable’ sources is valuable we need to ask the above questions to ourselves and simply think through before we utter or type in this case.  :-)

Remember the Hadith of our prophet:
‘ A person may utter a word that he thinks harmless, which results in his falling the depth of 70 years into hellfire’. Related by at-tirmithiyy in his book Al-Jami^ .

May Allah increase our knowledge.           
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Re: Something about Issa
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 26 August 2007, 03:18 »
Ameen wa feekoum

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Re: Something about Issa
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 26 August 2007, 03:44 »
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Mazhar please don’t use the meanings that Yusuf Ali claims is the Quran. Most are inaccurate and actually ‘Kufur’ blasphemous. Because of his weakness in the religion he understood the wrong meanings and strayed. 
   
I remind Mazhar again to be really careful when choosing his sources and ‘Not’ speak without knowledge.{Aissie Advisor}


Just for convenience sake I pasted the translation of some of the translators about the Verses quoted. And now please quote me a single translation from Ibne Kathir to Maluna Moududi who have given any different translation from Yusalf Ali. Yousaf Ali was amongst those who in most of the verses translated after merely copying from old exegeses and Urdu translation by the people of sub continent.

My Lord, the Last Messenger has unimbiguously given a criteria to judge about the truth of a thing stated and that is and it is recorded for ever in the Book who is being taken care of by no less than Allah:

1-Bring me the revealed book;
2-Bring tangible evidence from knowledge.

If any thing said cannot be proved either by showing it written in the revealed Book or evidence from knowledge, then that statement cannot and should not be taken as true.

Fact and scum are two different things, one Haqq the other Batil notwithstanding how spread and evident it may be in the eyes of people since scum is always visible and truth if lying in the bed.

I don't evade questions; but none of the points raised earlier in the post by quoting from Quran e Majeed, have been answered or even considered.


 



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