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May Allah UNITE all Muslims
« on: Sunday 12 August 2007, 10:03 »


Blind Faith:

When they are told to follow the (Revelation) that has sent down, they say: nay, we shall follow the ways that we found our fathers (following). What if it is Satan beckoning them to the Penalty of the (Blazing) Fire? [Al_Quraan_031. 021]

Think again, why we Muslims are so divided and who is taking benefits from it and destroying us, one group at a time and who knows next will be yours. It is only the concept that I am right. Islaam spread from Makkah al-Mukarramah (  ãßÉ ÇáãßÑãÉ) to the rest of the world and not the other way.


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Don't Make your Priest (Ulemas, Scholars) your Lord:

They have made their Priest (Scholars) and their anchorites as their Lords. ….. There is no God but Allah. [Al_Quraan_009. 031]


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Change yourself NOW Before it gets Too LATE:

Verily Allah will never change the condition of a people until they (first) change it themselves. [Al_Quraan_013. 011]

And if you turn away, Allah will exchange you for some another people, and they will not be like you. [Al_Quraan_047. 038]


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Dividing into Sects:

As for those who Divide their Religion and break up into Sects, thou hast NO part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah. He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did." [Holy Quraan 6: 159]


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Differences:

If you DIFFER in anything (Faith, Salaat, Sayaam, Zakaat, etc.) amongst yourself, then REFER to Allah and his Messenger, if you really believe in Allah and in the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for determinations. [Al_Quraan_004. 059]


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Desiring a religion other than Islaam:

O ye who believe! Whoso of you becomes a renegade from his religion, (know that in his stead) Allah will bring a people whom He loves and who love Him, humble toward believers, stern toward disbelievers, striving in the way of Allah and fearing not the blame of any blamer. Such is the grace of Allah, which He gives unto whom He will. Allah is All Embracing, All Knowing. [Al_Quraan_005. 054]


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If anyone desires a religion OTHER than Islaam (Submission to Allah), NEVER will it be accepted of him: and in the Hereafter he will be in the rank of those who have LOST (their selves in the hell of fire). [Al_Quraan_003. 085]


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(Don't Call yourself Shiaa, Sunnee, Berelvee, Deubandee, Ahle-Hadees etc, Just call yourself Muslims, since Allah named you as Muslims)


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May Allah UNITE all Muslims. AMEEN .
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Re: May Allah UNITE all Muslims
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 12 August 2007, 10:31 »
...... your post is just too flowery ...... too rosy...

may Allah unite muslims, but do you see them anytime uniting ?



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Re: May Allah UNITE all Muslims
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 15 August 2007, 17:43 »
Had to modify that post. We dont refer to Allah as "friend".

The name of Allah Al-wali means: The One Who owns things and manages them. 

We ask Allah to guide those who had gone astray from the majority, we wish them goodness.

However, 'correct' and 'wrong' do not combine its one way or the other.  Do you see cops and thieves or muderers shaking hands and making up?? I dont.

The unity of muslims is founded on the teachings of the prophet peace be upon him. The muslim scholars established rules and methodologies to protect this creed. So, it is not open for anyone to say whatever he desires about the religion and those who speak out of ignorance will be exposed because the religion has rules.

When one speaks ask him for proof from the quran?, the hadith of the prophet? and the scholarly sayings or consensus (Ijma^) ? & remember that all of these support eachother and do not condractict eachother as the ignorant have obliviously claimed.

so on the above basis their will be unity, otherwise their is no unity with those who go under the banner of islam, bely the Quran, bely the prophet and the recognised scholars of Islam.

And dont fall for the length of the beard, the ^mamah or ^baayah..........Remember the person who is ignorant, you catch him every time he speaks......

Knowlegde is the gateway to success............ Remembering what Ibn sirin said: "THIS KNOWLEDGE IS RELIGION SO WATCH FROM WHOM YOU TAKE IT FROM".
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Re: May Allah UNITE all Muslims
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 15 August 2007, 19:15 »
please Advisor don't write in all caps.

yes, there are guys who are cops and murders. The example you gave was not a good one.

Yes Ijam3 is called consensus.


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Re: May Allah UNITE all Muslims
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 15 August 2007, 19:38 »
bely the Quran, bely the prophet and the recognised scholars of Islam.

hmmmmm. I needed to search to find out what you meant ....

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/belying

it is belie

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Re: May Allah UNITE all Muslims
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 16 August 2007, 00:09 »
1. Thanks for picking up the spelling error :lol: Yes belie.........

2. I was just raising the question about Ijma^. If you read again, you see what i mean??

When one speaks ask him for proof from the quran?, the hadith of the prophet? and the scholarly sayings or consensus (Ijma^) ?

3. Brother, I think you have misunderstood my point about cops and ,murderers/thieves.
I am not saying  what you said! Read again!

(Do you see cops and thieves or muderers shaking hands and making up?? I dont.)

In other words do you see cops and murderers/thieves uniting??? e.g cops saying to criminals "you guys are
are ok for the crimes you committed, lets make up". I would never see that happening. So guidance and misguidance do not unite.

I hope that is clearer.

 



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Re: May Allah UNITE all Muslims
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 16 August 2007, 03:34 »
   
(Do you see cops and thieves or muderers shaking hands and making up?? I dont.)


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Re: May Allah UNITE all Muslims
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 16 August 2007, 04:14 »
 :-o you do??? Why do we still have so called justice systems, courts, prisons??

Suprised by your answer.   

Injustice does not equal justice & misguidance does not equal guidance.

Yes their are corrupt believes etc. Some try to compromise and end up falling due to their ignorance.

I still think you dont understand the context in which i used that example. It is a good example i have heard from prominent figures when explaining to people why we defend this religion and not 'make up' or 'concede' to ignorant and corrupt individuals leading people astray. 

   

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Re: May Allah UNITE all Muslims
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 16 August 2007, 04:23 »
:-o you do??? Why do we still have so called justice systems, courts, prisons??
   

where do you think you are living?? today the most powerful mafioso are cops, and the most powerful cops are supported by relations in the mafia.


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Re: May Allah UNITE all Muslims
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 16 August 2007, 04:27 »
 :-)  Will leave it here.

 



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