Topic: Sunworshiper Versus Wahabi

[Aussie Advisor]

If a debate between the sunworshipper Vs Wahabi was to occur, the Wahhabi would have no answer:

The Wahhabis say that Allah occupies the sky and with what proof will he refute the sun worshipper? (They both worship a body).

The Sunworshipper would say to the Wahhabi: you say that the one whom I should worship is in the sky and I say to you that what I worship (the sun) is suspended in the air and its benefits are apparent. The sun benefits the wind, the plants and the humans and you worship something that you have imagined and is ‘mutahiyzz’ (fills/occupies a place).

The Sunworshipper would also say: I also worship something that is ‘mutahiyzz’ (fills/occupies a place from a space) but its existence is evident and seen, all the creations see it and see its benefit. But that what you worship we don’t see it and you yourself have not seen it and we didn’t feel its benefit. So why should we say that your religion is correct and mine incorrect.

“So that Mushabbih like the Wahhabi who believes that Allah is a body sitting above the throne will have no answer to the sun worshipper”.

But the Muslim who understands the intellectual proof and sayings of the scholars correctly, would say:

1. This sun has an appearance, a shape and boundaries. And what has boundaries requires one who specified it with those boundaries. The sun is round, hence it requires One who specified it with that shape; it is impossible for it to be God as you claim. However, my religion is the truth because my religion says that the creator of this world does not resemble the creations in anyway; He is clear from places, extremes, forms, How’s, He is clear from all the attributes of the creations. That is why my religion is correct, that is what the mind accepts. By this logical proof the Muslim would break/refute the claim of the sun worshipper.         

[Sami Yusuf Islam]

are there any more sunworshipers today?

don't those have a name other than sunworshipers?

[Aussie Advisor]

There are isloated groups who still worship the sun.

I think you are thinking of "the fire worshippers" = Majous, thats their other name.

[Sami Yusuf Islam]

There are isloated groups who still worship the sun.

I think you are thinking of "the fire worshippers" = Majous, thats their other name.

really?? isolated groups of sun worshipers in 2007??

WHERE?

[Viking Islam]

As-salamu ^alaykum,

I used to live next door to a family of fire worshippers. They were Kurds from ^Iraq I think.

[Aussie Advisor]

wa^alakum assalam brother Said.

Indeed they are around.

In fact sun worshipers are present in India, as their are those who worship Rats & cows amongst other things there.

We seek refuge from Allah.   

[Sami Yusuf Islam]

In fact sun worshipers are present in India

Really ?

What are they called?

What language do they speak?

How big is that community?

Where can I read a bit more about them ?

Why do they worship the sun ?

Why the sun?

you don't ask yourself such questions ??

[Viking Islam]

What are they called?

What language do they speak?

How big is that community?

Where can I read a bit more about them ?

Why do they worship the sun ?

Why the sun?

They speak Kurdish. As for the rest of the Qs: Try Google.

As was mentioned above they are also called "Zoroastrians". There is a sect that may or may not be similar to them, also in the Kurdish area, called Yazidis or Yezidis.

[Sami Yusuf Islam]

thank you SB

[Viking Islam]

You're welcome