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« on: Sunday 26 October 2003, 13:53 »
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Can anyone define riba for me?

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« Reply #1 on: Sunday 26 October 2003, 15:40 »
heeeyyyyyyy...

i JUST learned this YESTERDAY!!!

hang on lemme check.

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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 26 October 2003, 16:43 »
i just learned this yesterday... my sheykh taught me this yesterday....

this is directly from the Summary of Sheykh 3Abdullah Al Harariyy :

according to the author , riba is :

Chapter 3 Usurious Gain (Riba)

It is unlawful (haram) to do, consume, take, write down, or be a witness to usurious gain (riba). The riba comprises the following:

1. Selling gold for silver and silver for gold, gold for gold; or silver for silver--whether coined or not, made into jewelry, the ore itself, or other than that--with the condition of postponing the payment;

2. Selling the aforementioned items with the buyer or seller leaving one another before exchanging the payments;

3. Selling gold for gold or silver for silver with inequality in weight;

4. In the case of selling food for other food: It is not lawful to sell one type of food for another, such as wheat for barley, if one includes the condition of postponing the payment or if the buyer or seller leave one another before exchanging payments. In the case of similar types of food, such as wheat for wheat, one must avoid the aforementioned two conditions along with inequality. Hence, it is not lawful to sell barley for barley if there is inequality in volume, or the condition of postponing the payment is included, or the buyer and seller leave one another before exchanging payment.

see : http://www.aicp.org/IslamicInformation/English/SummaryMarriageandDealingContracts.htm

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« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 October 2003, 00:28 »
Brother 'Aziz, Riba can not be totally explained in a single sentence, but the most basic translation of it is Usurious Gain.

The most well known kind of Riba today, is the type in which side A loans a given amount of money to side B, and side A demands that side B pay back the debt PLUS something else. Even if it was just a single dollar that side A asked to be payed back on top of the true debt, that would be Riba, one of the greatest sins. It doesn't have to be money that side A asks for extra; it could be something else, and that would still be Riba. For example, side A loans $500 to side B; side A then says "I want back $500 and also to be able to use your car for a whole week". That is Riba, usurious gain. In either case, it is the same whether it is done in a single payment or in installments; it is still Riba.

However, as Ladyrain mentions, there are other types of Riba which are not so well known amongst the Muslims, although the judgment remains that falling into any of them is considered a major sin. An example of this is selling pure gold for pure gold, while the weights are not equal. For example, side A has a gold bracelet, and side B has a gold ring - the bracelet weighs more than the ring - in that case, it is Riba to exchange them in a buying/selling deal.

There are other types of Riba, so the one who wishes to get involved in trade transactions must seek the obligatory knowledge of the Religion pertaining to those matters, so that he does not fall into the numerous sins that many ignorant Muslims do today as a result of not having studied what Allah obliged them to learn.

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« Reply #4 on: Monday 27 October 2003, 02:01 »
So if a bank buys a property and rents it out to you, is this a form of riba or tajarat. After all they are asking you to pay rent on a property which is yours if you pay back the money.

If a bank gives u a loan and asks for extra is this riba or simply tajarat as they could have earned money from the loan in some other way e.g. investing in property.

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« Reply #5 on: Monday 27 October 2003, 02:02 »
whoa....

that was good... may i write that down in my notes??? :D

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 31 October 2003, 15:52 »
Did u agree with I said?

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 01 November 2003, 13:51 »
I have seen a fatwa from a Mufti Ghulam Rasul .........




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« Reply #8 on: Monday 24 May 2004, 07:32 »
Ghulam Rasul is Not a mufti, but rather a devious horrible unbeliever known also as the QaDyaani, the one who pretended to be prophet after prophet Mouhammad !!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #9 on: Thursday 16 June 2005, 08:15 »
sallam. i heard that the person who deals in  reba is curst.  are beloved profit said that this sin is =2 commiting adaltery with your mother 37 times. and i also learnt that allah decreases the welth of the person who deal in this dirty habbit. inshalla i pray that allah will keeps us all away form this sin.

 



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