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Are you a potential terrorist Wahhabi?
« on: Thursday 29 May 2003, 15:56 »
I am interested in defining exactly what a Wahhabi is and what the Wahhabi sect holds in common with terrorism in particular and all forms of Islamic extremism and intolerance in general...

Any takers...?

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Re: Are you a potential terrorist Wahhabi?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 01 June 2003, 12:37 »
Quote from: abdurrahman
I am interested in defining exactly what a Wahhabi is and what the Wahhabi sect holds in common with terrorism in particular and all forms of Islamic extremism and intolerance in general...

Any takers...?


There are many many threads about this already brother, look in the sects section or do a search, but it'll take you a while to wade through all the posts!
Hope you've had a nice weekend and have an enjoyable week
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Wahabism doesn't have a notable link to terrorism.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 July 2003, 07:09 »
Said ^Abdur-Rahman:
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I am interested in defining exactly what a Wahhabi is and what the Wahhabi sect holds in common with terrorism in particular


Wahabism doesn't appear to have much in connection with what is today referred to as terrorism.

Said ^Abdur-Rahman:
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and all forms of Islamic extremism and intolerance in general...


Intolerance to other creeds is something necessary in Islam. Beware of those who say that we accept all creeds. They are ninkampoops.

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Re: Are you a potential terrorist Wahhabi?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 August 2006, 12:16 »
It was said:
"Do not suppose that I came to bring peace to the earth: I did not come to bring peace but a sword.

Does this mean this statment is harboring terrorism??





Guess what.. that statment is not from the Qur'an..
It's form the bible: Matthew 10:34 WEY:


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia IT WAS SAID:

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"I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword" is one of the controversial statements reported of Jesus in the Bible. The saying has been understood in several ways, by Christians and non-Christians, to support several mutually-incompatible conclusions. Its main significance in that context is that it is often offered as evidence that Jesus advocated violence or rejected Messianic prophecy—a view that is repugnant to many Christians.

The "full" quote, according to the NASB translation of the Bible, reads (Jesus speaking):

"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household." (Matthew 10:34-36 NASB)
The Lukan parallels read:

"I have come to cast fire upon the earth; and how I wish it were already kindled!" ... "Do you suppose that I came to grant peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division; for from now on five members in one household will be divided, three against two and two against three."... (Luke 12:49,51-53 NASB)
"If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple." (Luke 14:26 NASB)
And the related Gospel of Thomas 16 (non-canonical) (SV) reads:

"Perhaps people think that I have come to cast peace upon the world. They do not know that I have come to cast conflicts upon the earth: fire, sword, war. For there will be five in a house: there'll be three against two and two against three, father against son and son against father, and they will stand alone."

Advocating violence
Some Christians and non-Christians believe that in these passages Jesus was advocating the use of violence. Applying a literal interpretation, they take the word "sword" to mean a literal metal sword and, by extension, warfare. In that case "division", as used in the verse from the Book of Luke, would tend to mean strife and war. For Christians accepting this interpretation, these passages may be seen as part of a justification for just wars and capital punishment. For non-Christians accepting this interpretation—particularly those who are philosophically opposed to violence—the Matthew and Luke passages are often seen as evidence of a moral deficiency in Jesus's teachings and therefore in Christianity. Many non-Christians go even further, claiming that this verse contradicts other teachings of Jesus, and therefore conclude that since the Bible is not self-consistent Christianity must be false.
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Re: Are you a potential terrorist Wahhabi?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 25 August 2006, 12:16 »
Islam is the true Religion

[Thus have we made the Muslim nation a justly balanced nation] Quran 2:143.

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Why are some poeple NOW comparing Islam to 'extremism'?
Why are some poeple NOW claiming that Islam urges 'terrorism'?
Why are some poeple NOW trying to ruin the clear name of Islam?

Maybe because Islam is the fastest growing religion in: United States, Canada, South America, Asia Europe rather all over the world.

Why has Islam been the fastest growing religion?

Because the message of Islam is about teaching and advising others to do the good. It's about knowledge that complies with your sound mind and pure intellect. That's the only reason why hundreds of millions are accepting Islam and submitting to this great religion out of their own choice and for the sake of God, Allah.

They all know that Islam rejects extremism, terrorism and fundamentalism. It’s about time for people to belie the media and believe themselves! Islamic History Never Lies.

http://www.alsunna.org/islam.htm

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Re: Are you a potential terrorist Wahhabi?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 25 August 2006, 13:06 »
you r right bro. there r so many relign in the world.
they kn tht Islam is most powerful n authentic religion
they r afraid from islam

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Re: Are you a potential terrorist Wahhabi?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 August 2006, 08:44 »
Barak Allah feek brother Devoted very clear.

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Re: Wahabism doesn't have a notable link to terrorism.
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 26 August 2006, 16:38 »
Wahabism doesn't appear to have much in connection with what is today referred to as terrorism.
I disagree with this statement. Many of the terrorist attacks such as 9/11 was done by Wahbbis and Ikwanis. The Ikwan's beliefs do have more of a terrorist ideology though but they lack the money and influence the whabbis have. They believe that anyone who works for a non-Muslim is a non-Muslim, even if the work they do is halal! The Wahbbis mostly fund, and the Ikwan usually do the work.

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Re: Are you a potential terrorist Wahhabi?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 26 August 2006, 17:21 »
It was said:
"Do not suppose that I came to bring peace to the earth: I did not come to bring peace but a sword.

Does this mean this statment is harboring terrorism??

Guess what.. that statment is not from the Qur'an..
It's form the bible: Matthew 10:34 WEY:

You are right brother guy. Wahabies and Ikhwanji group (Muslim Brotherhood) have the extreme blasphemous beliefs. They do consider those who work for any government especially in the Muslim world.
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Re: Wahabism doesn't have a notable link to terrorism.
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 27 August 2006, 04:54 »
I disagree with this statement. Many of the terrorist attacks such as 9/11 was done by Wahbbis and Ikwanis. The Ikwan's beliefs do have more of a terrorist ideology though but they lack the money and influence the whabbis have. They believe that anyone who works for a non-Muslim is a non-Muslim, even if the work they do is halal! The Wahbbis mostly fund, and the Ikwan usually do the work.
bro a muslim wil never kil inocent people.do u remember the Prophet's(peace be upon him) attitude with the crual people.so how a muslim do this.
if ikwan mean taliban thn they were not terrorist.the taliban period was a proper
islamic rule now no example in the world like tht.

 



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