Topic: I am beyond Sadness :(

[Oracle]

Hello people  ,

My heart was stroken today by the suffering of the Islamic people in Afghanistan. I could not brink my heart to think people in sheer wealthyness from all kinder would leave them to rott in this way.

My heart yurns to have unification in many ways, aren't we all people who can suffer and bleed?

At this point i was looking to a coverage off Al-Massoud, who fought and gave his life to put afghanistan on t.v to show the world and condemn the unequal treatment of woman.

I feel sad for everyone is allowed to put the Koran in their own perspective
and for some who would use violence upon other people to protect Allah. I feel abandoned by the light, and seem to understand less of it's intentions every day a little bit more. It stroke me hard to see clean unsinfull woman wearing burka's who obeyed Allah loyally being dogly treated and with a long steel bar, a taliban person who claimed to perform allah's will beated the **** out of them, by their posture, and almost seeing their eyes thru their burka's a massive amount of fear they showed only to be performed and not prevented by the camera man who was filming it.

Dear people , Islam may be interpreted in many ways but you must agree that the essence of converting a person to Islam would lead via Allah by this persons free will, and not by abusing force upon this person. Is that the true belief of Islam nowadays as i see on T.V being provoked by force as the Taliban does?

Is it worth the starving children?
Is it worth all the suicide's?
Is it worth all the spreading of hatred against many other religions?
Is it worth that Muslims fight Muslims to determine what freedom Allah gives us?

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May we be spared of the Terrorism we do upon ourselves foremost first.

[Ali]

Originally posted by Oracle
beated the ***** out of them

Do not use FOUL LANGUAGE on these forums :no2

[Sami Yusuf Islam]

thank you Ali


Dear Oracle,

Kindly post where appropriate....

does your thread belong to the True Belief category ??

[Oracle]

Ah, i will reply to both of you


Dear Ali ,

First i like to say in example if your islamic brother would punish you by using a long steel bar for his disagreements on how act in your ways to worship Allah would you not cry out in discomfort,while you honoustly tried to comply and actually did comply by the holy koran as it told you?

This man was brutal for the lack of a better word.

Dear Abdullah ,

I have aquired knowledge that you are the Administrator.
May i foremost firstly compliment you on the sheer beauty of your site,

To come back on your question  :utp1

I believe yes i do believe it's true Islam. For where else can we point out the differences of views that are being brought upon the Koran?

What is true Islam?

He who brings out weapons by the many to slaughter all those who oppose against it, like the Taliban does?

or

He who converts people by bringing the Koran to educate them about his holyness?


Peacefull or with weapons?, is Allah's will chosen by people who feel that weapons are neccesary ?Is that even allowed? , some people like Bin Laden think so, what do you think is true islam armed with a gun?

[Oracle]

:what?? oye, i thought i posted on the true islam forum part, a fluke won't happen again. :$

[Ali]

Dear Ali ,

First i like to say in example if your islamic brother would punish you by using a long steel bar for his disagreements on how act in your ways to worship Allah would you not cry out in discomfort,while you honoustly tried to comply and actually did comply by the holy koran as it told you?

This man was brutal for the lack of a better word.  

It *IS* wrong to beat up someone with a weapon like a steel bar if they are making mistakes in praying or reading the Holy Qur'an incorrectly but still
it doesn't justify the usage of such profane language on the forums.

You could of said a taliban person who claimed to perform allah's will beated them severely

Islam is a strict religion and every teacher has his or her own way of disciplining the student.

In my home country the Hafiz and Imam of the local Masjid beats his students who are aged between 14-18 with a bamboo stick which is around 60cm long. He does not beat them into a pulp or bruise them severely or make them bleed but he hurts them enough to make them remember how to read something correctly or perform praying correctly.

If the student is not disciplined he will go off the rails (astray from the path and correctness) there for it is important to discipline but not go over the top in doing so.

[Sami Yusuf Islam]

Dear Abdullah ,

I have aquired knowledge that you are the Administrator.

am the humble servant of this board, yes….

May i foremost firstly compliment you on the sheer beauty of your site,

thank you so much. I truly appreciate your encouraging words.

I believe yes i do believe it's true Islam. For where else can we point out the differences of views that are being brought upon the Koran?

Brother Oracle,

I DO understand your point of view… however, as you can see, under the category “True Islam” there are many forums….

TRUE ISLAM!
 
 True Islamic Belief  
 Teachings of the Prophet  
 Devious Sects claiming Islam  
 Women in Islam  


I would understand that you put your thread (subject) for example under the “Teachings of the Prophet” forum, saying that the behavior of this Bin Laden or his Wahhabi sect is strongly against Koran and the teachings of the prophet…….


However, the true Islamic belief does not deal with behavior of men…

A big welcome  again to Talk about Islam and I kindly ask you to consider this board as yours….

[Bird_of_prey]

Islam is a strict religion

It most certainly is.

[Ali]

It most certainly is.

And the rewards far outweigh the sufferings...