Topic: Why is it wrong?

[albert_18499]

Hello,
     According to the "hot tip", it is wrong to say that Allah is everywhere. I don't understand, why can't He be everywhere? :hmm

[ABDU]

Hello,
     According to the "hot tip", it is wrong to say that Allah is everywhere. I don't understand, why can't He be everywhere? :hmm

I'll explain to you why it is wrong to say that Allah exist everywhere.

first, what is everywhere dear Albert, isn't all places? yes .. isn't on the moon, underground, at my house, on the street, in my shoe, in the bathroom ... who dares to say that Allah in anything of these above, only who does not believe in Qur'an and Islam says so ...

Allah created everything, right? sure it is right ... Allah created the places too, and he was existing before he created anything, if somebody asked you where was Allah before he creates anything? what would you answer? the answer is Allah exists without a place because he created it ,he doesn't need it.

I'll give you prooves from Qur'an:

Allah said in surat al-shura, Ayah 11

áíÓ ßãËáå ÔíÁ æåæ ÇáÓãíÚ ÇáÈÕíÑ

which means: "There is nothing like Him and He has the attribute of Hearing and Seeing." This ayah absolutely and totally clears Allah of resembling the creation. It comprises that Allah, ta^ala, is different from the creations in the Self, Attributes, and Doings. Hence, it shows that Allah, ta^ala, exists without a place, because the one who exists in a place would, by nature, be composed of atoms, i.e., he would be a body, occupying a space, and Allah, ta^ala, is clear of occupying spaces.

Then The saying that Allah, ta^ala, exists without a place is the belief and the creed of the Messenger of Allah, sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam, the Companions and those who graciously followed them, and it shall be until the Day of Judgment.

i hope I was clear enough albert

My regards to you  :bro1

[albert_18499]

Thanks for responding Amdu, but now I would like to know of what essence Allah is. He is not a body, since he is not made of atoms, He is not spirit, because if I understand rightly, He is not like spirit. Both of these are a creation. I see Islam affirms that Allah is not like any of His creation and is not in need of anything or place. But instead of statements dealing of what He is not, does the Quran indicate what He is "like". I am not looking for the 99 Names that describe Him! Would I be correct in surmising that muslims do not "know" what He is "like"?

[albert_18499]

My  apologies for misspelling your name Abdu. I have another question though. Do muslims believe that Allah can travel between that place where He is, and the material world? Does He have the power?

[ABDU]

Albert , Nothing is like Allah, If Allah was a body, He would be susceptible to the things all bodies are susceptible to like change, divisibility, and annihilation--all indications of shortage or weakness and nonbefitting to attribute to Allah.

Albert please do not use these words when you talk about Allah like travelling or else ...

I told you Allah exist without a place, so don't say Allah could travel between places or not, never ... this is a dangereous question ..

The basic Islamic belief is one has to believe that the Creator, Allah, exists, and is not similar to anything.
He is the only Creator and the only One Who deserves to be worshipped. He does not need anything and everything needs Him.
God has Attributes of perfection that befit Him and any imperfection is not attributable to Him. Any imperfection, such as ignorance, place, direction, body, soul, organ, children, change or weakness, is not attributed to God.

Albert , The rule is simple: Whatever you imagine in your mind, God is different from it.

you have to follow this rule and only this rule, do not say "what essence Allah is" and yes Allah said in al Qur'an:
áíÓ ßãËáå ÔíÁ
which means  : There is nothing like Him

you asked:

does the Quran indicate what He is "like".

No Albert never and ever

just follow the rule dear Albert .. do not think of the self of Allah, just believe in Him.

[albert_18499]

Dear Abdu,
     Please forgive my ignorance, but I would like to know why "travel" is a inapproriate expression to be used in regards to Allah?

[Sami Yusuf Islam]

Dear Abdu,
     Please forgive my ignorance, but I would like to know why "travel" is a inapproriate expression to be used in regards to Allah?

Because “travel” means moving from one place to another. That is, a body would leave a place, and go to another place.

The rule says : whatever you imagine, Allah is different from it.

Thus, Allah is Not in a place, and does not resemble the creatures that go from one place to another.

[albert_18499]

Thanks Abdu,  I would like to know if Allah exists within our " time and space", or outside our time and space, or both?  :hmm

[Sami Yusuf Islam]

Thanks Abdu,  I would like to know if Allah exists within our " time and space", or outside our time and space, or both?  :hmm

That was me in the last reply, not Abdu ;-)

The belief of all Muslims of Ahlussunna wal Jama^a is that Allah exists WIHTOUT a place. Allah is not confined to a space, whatever that is…

Similarly, Allah is The One who created Time… The notion of time applies to us, the creatures… Allah is The Creator, Who created all, including time….

[Devoted to Islam]

Peace Albert,
If a person asks where is Allah? the answer would be on His Throne above the Seven Heavens, on the Day of Judgement He will rise above this in the most Majestic Manner. There are many proofs for this in the Quran.  :rdg1

also if we were to say Allah is everywhere, we would basically be saying that Allah is like Light, which is incorrect because angels are made out of light not Allah.