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Jehovah's witness???
« on: Saturday 25 November 2006, 15:51 »
It was said:

Reply to those who call themselves Jehovah’s Witnesses


Be firm that the One Who has the Godhood is the One Who has the Power to create.

God is the Creator and everything else is a creation.

The word ‘create’ here means to bring something from non-existence into existence.


How do we know that God Exists? Because we see creations around us and our sound intellect tells us that every creation with its specifications must have been created.

For example, the existence of this whole world with the trees, mountains, animals and humans is an indication that there is a Creator.

That Creator is God and He is Attributed with the Perfect Attributes which befit Him.

He is not attributed with weakness or powerlessness.


Hence, what is claimed on page 6 of the November 2006 issue of “Awake!” that the bible rejects the idea that every atom and molecule in the universe is under the Eternal Will of God is attributing God with being powerless over the universe.

Moreover, attributing rule to satan the devil (John 5:19, 14:30) portrays God as powerless over satan.

Rather, one must believe God has Power over all things and that He created both good and evil.


Saying that there are ‘hundreds of millions of spirit sons of God’ (Job 38:4, 7; Daniel 7:10) and that satan was originally one of these (Genesis 2:17, 3:1-5) does not agree with the sound intellect.

Firstly, because God is not a spirit and He Exists without a place.

The proof for this is that He is the Creator of the spirits and of everything, including the heavens and earth. Hence He Eternally Existed before them without them. He Eternally Existed without a place and He now Exists as He Eternally Existed – without a place, because change is impossible to attribute to Him – He is Eternally Perfect and does not change from that. Attributing Him with place attributes to Him weakness and need and it is a sign of being created. Hence we do not say that about God.

Secondly, because Knowledge about all things is an Attribute of Godhood and God Eternally Knew that some of His creations would commit evil. His Angels are created with obedience inherent in them but humans and jinn were created as susceptible to sin. Jinn is the kind of creation satan is; they are created from fire, angels from light and humans from soil. God created satan and Knew he would commit evil. He Eternally Willed for the existence of both good and evil but He Ordered the humans and jinn with good. To say otherwise is attributing weakness to God – Godhood and weakness do not go together.


To say that God has no Power over natural disasters is also attributing weakness to Him. These disasters occur by the Eternal Will of God and each human is judged according to their situation.

Certainly satan does not have the power to send a tsunami to people, because it was not given to him by God, but even if it was, satan would not destroy both good and evil people as the tsunami does.

The tsunami is a cause of death for many and death is inevitable – no matter what the cause is. Some people die old and some die young and they all will be judged according to their situation.

But to say that a tsunami comes and it is not by the Will of God does not make sense at all for the one who believes in the Godhood of God.


According to John 3:16, ‘God sent Jesus to die in our behalf so that we might have the hope of living forever.’ If Jesus is dead now, how can he according to you ‘restore Paradise and even raise the dead back to life’.

God, the One Who is NOT attributed with death is the One that gives life and brings death and resurrects the people for Judgement.

He will punish those who blasphemed in Him and some of the believers who died without repentance as even can be found in 1 Thessalonians 4:6 and Galatians 6:7.


God created the whole world and evolution is not the correct thing to believe. This is outlined even on page 21 of the November 2006 issue of “Awake!” where they mention a booklet exposing the failings of evolution. Unfortunately, on page 27 they say that 450 churches now believe evolution is acceptable. According to them, doesn’t that contradict Genesis 1:12, 25.


I hope this letter is received with acceptance and realisation that there are some statements in the present-day bible which could not possibly have been preached by Prophet Jesus or any other Messenger of God.   

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Re: Jehovah's witness???
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 31 October 2007, 09:31 »
One thing that I don't like about Jehovah Witnesses is they always knocks on your door at the wrong hour!!!

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Re: Jehovah's witness???
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 31 October 2007, 18:24 »
haha yeah  :-D

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Re: Jehovah's witness???
« Reply #3 on: Friday 29 February 2008, 14:21 »
One way of dealing with them is to have something ready to give them e.g. a booklet on some Islamic topic in exchange for what they give you.

I tried this once and they wouldn't take my book that I had on a CD, so I refused to take their literature.

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Re: Jehovah's witness???
« Reply #4 on: Friday 07 March 2008, 14:58 »
I had 5 wittnesses coming to my house a couple years ago. They kept telling me, over and over, that I needed to convert to their true religion. After a while I noticed that they kept telling me that there were only 144,000 people going to heaven..... One day a wittless said that one reason to convert was there were over a million members of their church and all 144,000 will be from the jehovah witness church....."HMMMMM", I said. "If there are a million members and only 144,000 go to heaven, which of you aren't going"?

They immediately got up and left. They never came back.

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Re: Jehovah's witness???
« Reply #5 on: Friday 07 March 2008, 23:02 »
One way of dealing with them is to have something ready to give them e.g. a booklet on some Islamic topic in exchange for what they give you.

I tried this once and they wouldn't take my book that I had on a CD, so I refused to take their literature.

when people offer you religious matieral that has kufr in it..accept all of it, and then, ask for more...that way there is less other people they can misguide....the stuff you get, you can burn it.

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Re: Jehovah's witness???
« Reply #6 on: Monday 17 March 2008, 19:47 »
It happened to me in many instances.
One of things we can do is say we are Muslims .
that way we can get into a discussion on what we belive in.
(if it doesnt take ages!!!!)

 



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