Topic: What does it mean when its say all power belongs to Allah

[nmh1977]

:a1   In the Quran Allah  Sobhanahou wa ta^ala has told us that all power belongs to him.  What exactly does this mean.  It just a clarification on the word POWER.  The reason I am posting this is because ive read many strange things about people who turn to Jinns and other things asking for help.  But this is wrong, my understanding is that anything that happens is by the will of Allah Sobhanahou wa ta^ala, so how can turning to other possibly help.  But it seems as though certain books out there state that people still do this.    I have even read books that state people have been helped by jinns in carrying out request.  Am I the only confussed by this.  Surely if you call on anyone other than Allah Sobhanahou wa ta^ala, you are wasting time.  Please can someone than explain to me this contradication.  Also what is the meaning of the word "power"...  does it mean ability to do something or is there a different meaning in the Quran

Thank you brothers and sisters

Assalamu Alaikum

[Zahedah]

Dear nmh1977,

It would be my pleasure to respond to your question:

First of all, I would like to clarify what the attribute  of the self of Allah, Power al-Qudrah) means:  

It is obligatory to believe Allah is attributed with Power, which is defined as an eternal and everlasting attribute of Allah related to giving existence to and annihilating what is intellectually possible. Allah said which means: [Allah has the Power over everything.]

That is, Allah's Power relates to all things that are intellectually possible. Hence, the Power of Allah is not related to the intellectually necessary neither in creating nor annihilating, because annihilation does not apply to it in the first place. The power of Allah is not related to the intellectually impossible (such as Allah having a partner in his Godhood) neither in creating nor annihilating because existence in the first place does not apply to that which is intellectually impossible.

The fact that the power of Allah is not related to the intellectually necessary and the intellectually impossible is not powerlessness, but rather indicates the perfection of Allah. Also, this fact conforms to the judgment of the mind: the intellectually impossible does not turn into an intellectual possibility, and the intellectually necessary does not turn into an intellectual possibility. The Power of Allah is related to the normal impossibilities. For example, although the existence of a sea of mercury is an intellectual possibility, it does not occur, and the Power of Allah is related to it.

As for asking others for help:[/b]

Muslims believe that Allah is the ONLY creator.  He creates the good and bad, sickness and health, hunger and satisfaction etc. and seeking help by others is only a means.

So when we seek help from other such as when we get sick, we go to the doctor, or when our computer crashes, we call technical support.  When we get hungry, we eat etc.  These are all means and all Muslims know that.

Making tawasssul  is beneficial and rewardable. So it is a good thing to  make a supplication to Allah and ask Allah for help by the virtue of the Prophets and pious people.  It is not a waste of time my dear friend. :lia

However, going to the Jinn is absolutely forbidden.  If someone say, lost his car and went to a person that interacts with Jinn to find out where his car is, then that person commits a sin and does not get rewarded for his prayer for 40 days.

If you have any further questions, please do not hesistate to ask.  May Allah reward you :apl1.

[Devoted]

Thank you Zaheda for this informative response !

[Zahedah]

You are welcome, just as all the brothers and sister here are.  We ask Allah to let us benefit from eachother and strengthen our faith.  (Ameen)

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[nmh77]

Thank you for the information.  I have some further questions.  You stated that if someone ask the jinn for help their prayers are not answered for 40 days, in familar with this hadith.  But using the example you gave of someone asking the jinn to find someone or something, how could the jinn be able to provide this information to someone.  My knowledge was that if someone asked a jinn to do this then they would'nt be able to help as all power belongs to Allah.  Im not sure if my knowledge is incorrrect, but im really confussed.  So a person could either turn to Allah Subhanahu wa ta^ala to ask for help in finding this person or thing or to a jinn.  But why would if someone asked a jinn would Allah allow this person to be given that information.  Becuase we all know it is not allowed to turn to others than Allah.  Would'nt Allah (Subhanahu wa ta^ala) provide the person we the information on were that person of thing was if they asked Allah (Subhanahu wa ta^ala).  And asking a jinn for help is also Shirk is'nt it.  My dilema is basically i had a good friend and I acted in bad way to them, but i regret it know.  But this person does'nt want to speak to me again, and i really want to tell this person that I was sorry.  However, they wont speak to me again and they've moved address, i really want to see this person again to talk to them.  What can I do, Ive asked Allah (Subhana) for help but they have not got in touch with me and i cant contact them. ??    

Maybe it is because i feel difficult asking these questions to my relatives, but thank you for responding.

[nmh1977]

:confused:  :a1  Can anyone explain why there are books stating that people seeking help from Jinns and are assisted, yet it is a sin to believe this.  I am very confused.  I have read many articles and I seem to be more confussed.  The Quran states that no one but Allah (Subhanahu wa ta^ala) can help us and only he has all power, yet why do people turn to the jinns for help.  Surely this would result in no help.  But I have read articles by so called scholars stating examples where people have turned to jinns and been helped.  Is not this Shirk, and then how can we beleive this if we are told this cannot happen yet books are being written stating it can happen

 :lo1

Assalamu Alaikum

[Zahedah]

Dear Brother NMH1977 ,

I would like to clarify.  For the person who goes to the one who cooperates with the jinn to find out where is lost object is, I did not say that his prayers would not be answered.  His prayer is valid, however, he will not get reward for the prayer.  There is a difference between having a valid prayer (that is, fulfilling the integrals of the obligation of prayer) and fulfilling the conditions to get reward for your prayer.

There are conditions that one must meet in order to get reward for their prayer such as having at least a moment of fear of Allah.  Many times, people pray but do not think about fearing Allah and the torture in the hereafter, rather, they think about what to cook, money, business, the kids. etc.

Second of all, there is no need to be confused brother.

There are people who get help from the jinn.  The jinn do assist others in many ways such as providing information about lost objects or about someone's past.  IT IS HARAM to do so.  

Not everyone, however, fears Allah subhanahu wa ta^ala. People write books about black majic or about how to get assistance from the Jinn because most of the time it brings them wealth in this life.

An example is David Copperfield.  When he flew, it was because the Jinn were carrying him.  The jinn are invisible to most people.  How much money did David Copperfield earn from ticket revenues???

It is shirk (associating a partner to Allah) if the person believes that the Jinn has the power to create.  It is also shirk if someone worships the Jinn.  Most of the time, the people that cooperate with the Jinn commit blaphemy because the jinn ask for something in exchange such as writing a verse of the Qur'an in filth (blood, urine. etc.)  Satan wants people to commit sins and to commit blasphemy.

So we do believe that there are people who get assistance from the jinn.  We DO NOT believe that the jinn are the creators or that they are attributed with Power like Allah.

The creations have power, but not like the Power of Allah.  The Power of Allah is Eternal and Everlasting.  Allah has the power to do whatever he wills. The limited power the creations have is created by Allah.

We have the power to eat, drink, go to school, work, etc.  Likewise, the jinn have the power to lift people, reveal information, hurt people. etc.

A scholar named An-Nasafiyy said: "If a person hit a glass with a stone, and broke it, then the acts of hitting and breaking and the state of being broken were created by Allah".  The slave only acquires the act.  Allah is the only one who creates (i.e. bringing the creations from non-existence into existence).


I hope it has become clearer for you brother...if not, please continue to ask.

[nmh1977]

:s1  Assalamu Alaikum,
       Thankyou for sharing your knowledge with me.  My understanding is much better now, may Allah (Subhanahu wa ta^ala) reward you for helping me out.  If i need any help how can i contact you ?.  


Assalamu Alaikum  :s1

[Zahedah]

Wa alaykum assalam Brother NMH1977,

Your very welcome my dear brother :bl1!!!  This is what we are here for...share our knowledge with eachother:rdg2.

If you need anything at all, anything....please send me pm :lvlv1.

I removed your email address from your post, for your own benefit because I do not want hackers getting a hold of your personal email address.  There are programs on the net that search for email addresses on forums :cwt.

May Allah reward you and bless you :lbw1.

[SadaQa]

its better to spell it (swt) sobahanahou wa ta'ala with out speling it (swt).
may Allah bless you bro