Topic: shiites

[ottoman]

there are twelve groups of Shiites.each group has parted  into sub-groups.some of them lead a life whithout an ablution,without ghusl.few of them perfom namaz.they all hold nonSunni beliefs.they are not Alawis.Alawi means a person who loves and follows the Ahl-i BaytI mam-i Ali and his children from Hadrat-i Fatima are called the Ahl-i Bayt.the honour of loving the Ahl-i Bayt has fallen to the lot of the Ahl as sunnat,who have said that loving and following them will cause one to die with iman.then,the real Alawis are the Ahl as sunnat ,not the Shiis.therefore,a person who wants to be an Alawi has to be a Sunni.today zindiqs and people who have no relationship with Islam appropriate the name of Alawi,plagiarizing it from the Ahl as sunnat.under the shade of this beautiful name,they try to mislead the youth from Rasulullah's way.
to slander the Sahaba means to slander Allahu taala's Prophet 'sall-Allahu alaihi wa sallam' as declared 'he who disrespects the Sahaba does not iman in Allahu taala's Messenger.
SAHABA'THE BLESSED' page365

[samsparky]

The groups of shia are actually more than 20, and no not all of them are blasphemers.

PLease tell me about your reference ottoman, the author and year and if applicable the translator.

[ottoman]

reference:www.hizmetbooks.com

[ottoman]

a group of the Ashab-i Kiram'radiy-Akkahu anhum ajamain 'fought against Hadrat Ali'radiy Allahu anh'because their ijtihad differed from his ijtihad.Shiites call those people disbelievers'.they curse them with all sorts of abominable invectives because those people fought.yet the fact is that the Ashab-i Kiram 'alaihim-ur ridvan' had had ijtihad different from that of our master the Prophet 'sall-Allahu alaihi wasallam' in several matters whose solutions required ijtihad.they had not been blamed for those different ijtihads of theirs.nor they had been told to recant their ijtihads by the angel who had brought down the Wahy afterwards.they were mostly the greater ones of the Ashab al Kiram'alaihim-ur-ridwan
reference:Sahaba'the blessed',hizmet books

[samsparky]

Ijtihaad occurs when there is no explicit text from the Qur'aan or Hadeeth about something.

By that it is clear that since there is a clear proof that NO ONE should rebel against the caliph, then there is no such thing as ijtihaad in this matter. It is either you follow the Prophet's Hadeeth or you don't.

And what is this about the wahy? The wahy is during the Prophet's time, not after his death.

There is also no such thing as an ijtihaad different to the Prophet. What kind of absurdity is that - you are saying the Prophet clearly told them something and then they did not follow it? That is sinful.

[samsparky]

And your lack of explaining your reference except by a website shows that it is an invalid reference.

A person who has an invalid reference should not talk especially if the proofs against this reference are clear.

[ottoman]

are you Sunni  :? :? :?

[princess123]

If your refering to sis samsparky, then of course she is :-)

[ottoman]

If your refering to sis samsparky, then of course she is :-)

then she is not my sister anymore

[princess123]

no offence bro but what a ridiculous thing to say