Author Topic: Question on hidjab and burqa (Read 6368 times)

Emilee · « **Reply #40 on:** Sunday 12 February 2006, 22:32 »

Quote from: ABDULLAH on Saturday 10 August 2002, 11:16

Very Dear Brother, sage

No, what you heard is not true.... for the prophet himself ordered the hijab and the proper islamic wearing for muslim women.

This is not something that the companions invented. This is the teaching of the prophet himself.

welcome to the forum, a big big big welcome everybody to brother sage.....

:apl1 :apl1 :apl1 :apl1 :lvlv1 :lvlv1 :bh1 :bh1 :bh1 :ocf :ocf

I agree , but dont you think that wearing hijab only covers your hair, and I dont understand why is it compulsory?

I mean I know that we as women are not suppose to atract males and lower our gazes , personally speaking I wouldnt do that by my personality, but thats only hair???

I am not trying to say prophet Mohammed's teachings are wrong (NOT) :wink:, but I just am asking for more explanation... :?

samsparky · « **Reply #41 on:** Sunday 12 February 2006, 22:41 »

Dear Ema,

The obligatory thing on the woman is to cover all except the hands and face.

That rule is taken from the Qur'aan.

Every Rule in Islaam has a wisdom behind it. We might not realise what the wisdom is exactly and completely but we must believe that there is a wisdom.

Allaah is our Creator and He knows more about His creation than us.

Emilee · « **Reply #42 on:** Sunday 12 February 2006, 23:05 »

May Allah guide us patience and piece in understanding...... .

Emilee · « **Reply #43 on:** Sunday 12 February 2006, 23:06 »

sorry ..spelling mistake........

peace........ :lol: :lol:

Sami Yusuf Islam · « **Reply #44 on:** Monday 13 February 2006, 01:20 »

Quote from: Ema on Sunday 12 February 2006, 23:06

sorry ..spelling mistake........

peace........ :lol: :lol:

I thought so too........

fouzia attaria · « **Reply #45 on:** Thursday 30 March 2006, 16:52 »

Asalamaulikum ,hijab is v important for muslim women ,it would be nice if they cover there faces also.

Sami Yusuf Islam · « **Reply #46 on:** Thursday 30 March 2006, 17:55 »

welcome sister fouzia ....

what is hijab for you ?

MuslimMan · « **Reply #47 on:** Monday 13 November 2006, 23:41 »

I am trying to do some research on Niqab. Could somebody please provide the exact arabic fatwa quotes from al-Haytami al-Razi and others which was mentioned above.

Protoculture · « **Reply #48 on:** Tuesday 14 November 2006, 01:46 »

Quote

it would be nice if they cover there faces also.

Actually, let them start by wearing hijab first. If they decide to cover their faces, it will be up to them. This thing takes time especially amongst Muslimah who do not wear hijab yet.

All in due time, so, encouragement from relatives, friends & family will help a lot too.

Wassalam

samsparky · « **Reply #49 on:** Tuesday 14 November 2006, 15:49 »

Quote from: ABDULLAH on Friday 23 August 2002, 05:00

I would be happy to my beloved sister.

may Allah bless you

just tell me which hadith precisely you want me to report to you and I would as soon as possible reply to you.

The hadith that I mentioned above is that the prophet was with his cousin, alfaDl son of Abbas, on a monture, and a woman came to ask the prophet about doing the pilgrimage on behalf of her very old father.

so when that woman came, she looked at alfaDl and he looked in her face, till the prophet gently turned the face of his cousin, and answered the woman to her question.

this is in al boukhary, and you find its detailed explanation in fat7 al bary, of ibin 7ajar al 3asqalani.

here is the original hadeeth :

þÍÏËäÇ þ þÚÈÏ Çááå Èä ãÓáãÉ þ þÚä þ þãÇáß þ þÚä þ þÇÈä ÔåÇÈ þ þÚä þ þÓáíãÇä Èä íÓÇÑ þ þÚä þ þÚÈÏ Çááå Èä ÚÈÇÓ þ þÑÖí Çááå ÚäåãÇ þ þÞÇá þ
þßÇä þ þÇáÝÖá þ þÑÏíÝ ÇáäÈí þ þÕáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã þ þÝÌÇÁÊ ÇãÑÃÉ ãä þ þÎËÚã þ þÝÌÚá þ þÇáÝÖá þ þíäÙÑ ÅáíåÇ æÊäÙÑ Åáíå ÝÌÚá ÇáäÈí þ þÕáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã þ þíÕÑÝ æÌå þ þÇáÝÖá þ þÅáì ÇáÔÞ ÇáÂÎÑ ÝÞÇáÊ þ þÅä ÝÑíÖÉ Çááå ÃÏÑßÊ ÃÈí ÔíÎÇ ßÈíÑÇ áÇ íËÈÊ Úáì ÇáÑÇÍáÉ ÃÝÃÍÌ Úäå ÞÇá äÚã æÐáß Ýí ÍÌÉ ÇáæÏÇÚ

and its explanation in fat7 al bari

ÝÊÍ ÇáÈÇÑí ÈÔÑÍ ÕÍíÍ ÇáÈÎÇÑí
þ
þÞæáå : ( ßÇä ÇáÝÖá ) þ
þíÚäí ÇÈä ÚÈÇÓ , æåæ ÃÎæ ÚÈÏ Çááå æßÇä ÃßÈÑ æáÏ ÇáÚÈÇÓ æÈå ßÇä íßäì . þ

þÞæáå : ( ÑÏíÝ ) þ
þÒÇÏ ÔÚíÈ " Úáì ÚÌÒ ÑÇÍáÊå " . þ

þÞæáå : ( ÝÌÇÁÊå ÇãÑÃÉ ãä ÎËÚã ) þ
þÈÝÊÍ ÇáãÚÌãÉ æÓßæä ÇáãËáËÉ ÞÈíáÉ ãÔåæÑÉ . þ

þÞæáå : ( ÝÌÚá ÇáÝÖá íäÙÑ ÅáíåÇ ) þ
þÝí ÑæÇíÉ ÔÚíÈ " æßÇä ÇáÝÖá ÑÌáÇ æÖíÆÇ - Ãí ÌãíáÇ - æÃÞÈáÊ ÇãÑÃÉ ãä ÎËÚã æÖíÆÉ ÝØÝÞ ÇáÝÖá íäÙÑ ÅáíåÇ æÃÚÌÈå ÍÓäåÇ " . þ

þÞæáå : ( íÕÑÝ æÌå ÇáÝÖá ) þ
þÝí ÑæÇíÉ ÔÚíÈ " ÝÇáÊÝÊ ÇáäÈí Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã æÇáÝÖá íäÙÑ ÅáíåÇ ÝÃÎáÝ ÈíÏå ÝÃÎÐ ÈÐÞä ÇáÝÖá ÝÏÝÚ æÌåå Úä ÇáäÙÑ ÅáíåÇ " æåÐÇ åæ ÇáãÑÇÏ ÈÞæáå Ýí ÍÏíË Úáí " Ýáæì ÚäÞ ÇáÝÖá " ææÞÚ Ýí ÑæÇíÉ ÇáØÈÑí Ýí ÍÏíË Úáì " æßÇä ÇáÝÖá ÛáÇãÇ ÌãíáÇ , ÝÅÐÇ ÌÇÁÊ ÇáÌÇÑíÉ ãä åÐÇ ÇáÔÞ ÕÑÝ ÑÓæá Çááå Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã æÌå ÇáÝÖá Åáì ÇáÔÞ ÇáÂÎÑ , ÝÅÐÇ ÌÇÁÊ Åáì ÇáÔÞ ÇáÂÎÑ ÕÑÝ æÌåå ÚäåÇ - æÞÇá Ýí ÂÎÑå - ÑÃíÊ ÛáÇãÇ ÍÏËÇ æÌÇÑíÉ ÍÏËÉ ÝÎÔíÊ Ãä íÏÎá ÈíäåãÇ ÇáÔíØÇä "

I do not know if you Lily, my sister, can read arabic, but in any way, let me draw your attention to what is narrated at the end of this citation :

that Imam al Tabari narrated that the prophet said what means : I saw a young man and a young woman, and I feared that the devil might be able to go in between them (change their ideas.... you know)

does that answer your question

I have more for my sister Lily.

Imam Nasa2i mentioned. :

þÃÎÈÑäÇ þ þÃÈæ ÏÇæÏ þ þÞÇá ÍÏËäÇ þ þíÚÞæÈ Èä ÅÈÑÇåíã þ þÞÇá ÍÏËäÇ þ þÃÈí þ þÚä þ þÕÇáÍ Èä ßíÓÇä þ þÚä þ þÇÈä ÔåÇÈ þ þÃä þ þÓáíãÇä Èä íÓÇÑ þ þÃÎÈÑå Ãä þ þÇÈä ÚÈÇÓ þ þÃÎÈÑå þ
þÃä ÇãÑÃÉ ãä þ þÎËÚã þ þÇÓÊÝÊÊ ÑÓæá Çááå þ þÕáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã þ þÝí ÍÌÉ ÇáæÏÇÚ þ þæÇáÝÖá Èä ÚÈÇÓ þ þÑÏíÝ þ þÑÓæá Çááå þ þÕáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã þ þÝÞÇáÊ íÇ ÑÓæá Çááå Åä ÝÑíÖÉ Çááå Ýí ÇáÍÌ Úáì ÚÈÇÏå ÃÏÑßÊ ÃÈí ÔíÎÇ ßÈíÑÇ áÇ íÓÊæí Úáì þ þÇáÑÇÍáÉ þ þÝåá íÞÖí Úäå Ãä ÃÍÌ Úäå ÝÞÇá áåÇ ÑÓæá Çááå þ þÕáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã þ þäÚã ÝÃÎÐ þ þÇáÝÖá Èä ÚÈÇÓ þ þíáÊÝÊ ÅáíåÇ æßÇäÊ ÇãÑÃÉ ÍÓäÇÁ æÃÎÐ ÑÓæá Çááå þ þÕáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã þ þÇáÝÖá þ þÝÍæá æÌåå ãä ÇáÔÞ ÇáÂÎÑ

which is basically the same story, but with different words.

also

Imam Malik in his MouwaTTa2 mentioned this story :

þÍÏËäí þ þíÍíì þ þÚä þ þãÇáß þ þÚä þ þÇÈä ÔåÇÈ þ þÚä þ þÓáíãÇä Èä íÓÇÑ þ þÚä þ þÚÈÏ Çááå Èä ÚÈÇÓ þ þÞÇá þ
þßÇä þ þÇáÝÖá Èä ÚÈÇÓ þ þÑÏíÝ ÑÓæá Çááå þ þÕáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã þ þÝÌÇÁÊå ÇãÑÃÉ ãä þ þÎËÚã þ þÊÓÊÝÊíå ÝÌÚá þ þÇáÝÖá þ þíäÙÑ ÅáíåÇ æÊäÙÑ Åáíå ÝÌÚá ÑÓæá Çááå þ þÕáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã þ þíÕÑÝ æÌå þ þÇáÝÖá þ þÅáì ÇáÔÞ ÇáÂÎÑ ÝÞÇáÊ íÇ ÑÓæá Çááå Åä ÝÑíÖÉ Çááå Ýí ÇáÍÌ ÃÏÑßÊ ÃÈí ÔíÎÇ ßÈíÑÇ áÇ íÓÊØíÚ Ãä íËÈÊ Úáì ÇáÑÇÍáÉ þ þÃÝÃÍÌ Úäå ÞÇá äÚã þ þæÐáß Ýí ÍÌÉ ÇáæÏÇÚ

last thing, you also find a similar story in fat7 al bary of ibin 7ajar :

þÍÏËäÇ þ þÃÈæ ÇáíãÇä þ þÃÎÈÑäÇ þ þÔÚíÈ þ þÚä þ þÇáÒåÑí þ þÞÇá ÃÎÈÑäí þ þÓáíãÇä Èä íÓÇÑ þ þÃÎÈÑäí þ þÚÈÏ Çááå Èä ÚÈÇÓ þ þÑÖí Çááå ÚäåãÇ þ þÞÇá þ
þÃÑÏÝ ÑÓæá Çááå þ þÕáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã þ þÇáÝÖá Èä ÚÈÇÓ þ þíæã ÇáäÍÑ ÎáÝå Úáì ÚÌÒ ÑÇÍáÊå æßÇä þ þÇáÝÖá þ þÑÌáÇ æÖíÆÇ ÝæÞÝ ÇáäÈí þ þÕáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã þ þááäÇÓ íÝÊíåã æÃÞÈáÊ ÇãÑÃÉ ãä þ þÎËÚã þ þæÖíÆÉ ÊÓÊÝÊí ÑÓæá Çááå þ þÕáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã þ þÝØÝÞ þ þÇáÝÖá þ þíäÙÑ ÅáíåÇ æÃÚÌÈå ÍÓäåÇ ÝÇáÊÝÊ ÇáäÈí þ þÕáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã þ þæÇáÝÖá þ þíäÙÑ ÅáíåÇ ÝÃÎáÝ ÈíÏå ÝÃÎÐ ÈÐÞä þ þÇáÝÖá þ þÝÚÏá æÌåå Úä ÇáäÙÑ ÅáíåÇ ÝÞÇáÊ þ þíÇ ÑÓæá Çááå Åä ÝÑíÖÉ Çááå Ýí ÇáÍÌ Úáì ÚÈÇÏå ÃÏÑßÊ ÃÈí ÔíÎÇ ßÈíÑÇ áÇ íÓÊØíÚ Ãä íÓÊæí Úáì ÇáÑÇÍáÉ Ýåá íÞÖí Úäå Ãä ÃÍÌ Úäå ÞÇá äÚã þ

ÝÊÍ ÇáÈÇÑí ÈÔÑÍ ÕÍíÍ ÇáÈÎÇÑí
þ
þÞæáå ( ÃÑÏÝ ÇáäÈí Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã ÇáÝÖá ) þ
þåæ ÇÈä ÚÈÇÓ , æÞÏ ÊÞÏã ÔÑÍå Ýí ßÊÇÈ ÇáÍÌ , ÞÇá ÇÈä ÈØÇá : Ýí ÇáÍÏíË ÇáÃãÑ ÈÛÖ ÇáÈÕÑ ÎÔíÉ ÇáÝÊäÉ , æãÞÊÖÇå Ãäå ÅÐÇ ÃãäÊ ÇáÝÊäÉ áã íãÊäÚ , ÞÇá : æíÄíÏå Ãäå Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã áã íÍæá æÌå ÇáÝÖá ÍÊì ÃÏãä ÇáäÙÑ ÅáíåÇ áÅÚÌÇÈå ÈåÇ ÝÎÔí ÇáÝÊäÉ Úáíå , ÞÇá : æÝíå ãÛÇáÈÉ ØÈÇÚ ÇáÈÔÑ áÇÈä ÂÏã æÖÚÝå ÚãÇ ÑßÈ Ýíå ãä Çáãíá Åáì ÇáäÓÇÁ æÇáÅÚÌÇÈ Èåä . æÝíå Ïáíá Úáì Ãä äÓÇÁ ÇáãÄãäíä áíÓ Úáíåä ãä ÇáÍÌÇÈ ãÇ íáÒã ÃÒæÇÌ ÇáäÈí Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã , ÅÐ áæ áÒã Ðáß ÌãíÚ ÇáäÓÇÁ áÃãÑ ÇáäÈí Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã ÇáÎËÚãíÉ ÈÇáÇÓÊÊÇÑ æáãÇ ÕÑÝ æÌå ÇáÝÖá , ÞÇá : æÝíå Ïáíá Úáì Ãä ÓÊÑ ÇáãÑÃÉ æÌååÇ áíÓ ÝÑÖÇ áÅÌãÇÚåã Úáì Ãä ááãÑÃÉ Ãä ÊÈÏí æÌååÇ Ýí ÇáÕáÇÉ æáæ ÑÂå ÇáÛÑÈÇÁ , æÃä Þæáå ( Þá ááãÄãäíä íÛÖæÇ ãä ÃÈÕÇÑåã ) Úáì ÇáæÌæÈ Ýí ÛíÑ ÇáæÌå . ÞáÊ : æÝí ÇÓÊÏáÇáå ÈÞÕÉ ÇáÎËÚãíÉ áãÇ ÇÏÚÇå äÙÑ áÃäåÇ ßÇäÊ ãÍÑãÉ , æ þ
þÞæáå " ÚÌÒ ÑÇÍáÊå " þ
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þÞæáå " æÖíÆÇ " þ
þÃí áÍÓä æÌåå æäÙÇÝÉ ÕæÑÊå , þ
þæÞæáå " ÝÃÎáÝ íÏå " þ
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þÞæáå " ÈÐÞä ÇáÝÖá " þ
þÈÝÊÍ ÇáÐÇá ÇáãÚÌãÉ æÇáÞÇÝ ÈÚÏåÇ äæä , ÞÇá ÇÈä ÇáÊíä : ÃÎÐ ãäå ÈÚÖåã Ãä ÇáÝÖá ßÇä ÍíäÆÐ ÃãÑÏ , æáíÓ ÈÕÍíÍ ; áÃä Ýí ÇáÑæÇíÉ ÇáÃÎÑì " æßÇä ÇáÝÖá ÑÌáÇ æÖíÆÇ " . ÝÅä Þíá ÓãÇå ÑÌáÇ ÈÇÚÊÈÇÑ ãÇ Âá Åáíå ÃãÑå ÞáäÇ . Èá ÇáÙÇåÑ Ãäå æÕÝ ÍÇáÊå ÍíäÆÐ , æíÞæíå Ãä Ðáß ßÇä Ýí ÍÌÉ ÇáæÏÇÚ æÇáÝÖá ßÇä ÃßÈÑ ãä ÃÎíå ÚÈÏ Çááå æÞÏ ßÇä ÚÈÏ Çááå ÍíäÆÐ ÑÇåÞ ÇáÇÍÊáÇã ÞáÊ : æËÈÊ Ýí ÕÍíÍ ãÓáã Ãä ÇáäÈí Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã ÃãÑ Úãå Ãä íÒæÌ ÇáÝÖá áãÇ ÓÃáå Ãä íÓÊÚãáå Úáì ÇáÕÏÞÉ áíÕíÈ ãÇ íÊÒæÌ Èå , ÝåÐÇ íÏá Úáì ÈáæÛå ÞÈá Ðáß ÇáæÞÊ æáßä áÇ íáÒã ãäå Ãä Êßæä äÈÊÊ áÍíÊå ßãÇ áÇ íáÒã ãä ßæäå áÇ áÍíÉ áå Ãä íßæä ÕÈíÇ .

have I answered your question Lily,

have you been taken care of on talkaboutislam.com

subHaanallaah bro ^Abdullaah the Arabic in the post is not working anymore. This also happened for a post on Hajj from about last year.

even if you change the encoding to windows arabic...

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