Topic: about friends and family ..

[Sami Yusuf Islam]

I have one of my beloved friends who customized his user name on msn messenger to be : read well :

Friend's come and Go    ,the only thing that stays is ur family ,  they never  forget u    .....


is that true

some of my friends are by far more enriching to my life than some members of my family !!

Is not that close to what we once discussed in Safeena.org about family and friends ?? I remember I said something like a family member is not necessarily a friend, but he or she could be.  But that should not be taken for granted ...

what do you think of this saying ??

Friend's come and Go    ,the only thing that stays is ur family ,  they never  forget u    .....

[True Muslima]

Friend's come and Go ,the only thing that stays is ur family , they never forget u .....

This is true, but not all the time

A member of your family might be very close to you, and you might consider him as a friend. In the other case, a friend who is not a member of your family, might be very close to you that you consider him family for you.

Friends might come and go, but these will not be TRUE FRIENDS[/u][/color], a true friend never forget you, and will always be there for you. He might be far, but he can still be as close to you, as anyone who is sitting besides you.

Look around you,[/color] not really around you, just the people who are still remembering you (even though you are far), the people who still care about you and wish you the best. Try to find them, you might find one or two, and you might find a lot, but you will see that they are not all a part of your family!
These friends came, but never left you, you might be apart but always close.

Of course, all this apply to family members no doubt they care about you and love you, especially your mother and father.[/color] No matter how close you are with a friend, and no matter how a friend loves you, of course your parents are the most important between them, and they will never forget you

Best Wishes[/i]

[Amynah]

Friend's come and Go ,the only thing that stays is ur family , they never forget u .....


This statement is not always true ....  
i agree with the statement in many ways .... but there is one fact that i dont agree on.......Sometimes the ones that are always there for you are actually your freinds......Even though you may not see or hear from them everyday becuase they are far away from you ...they will be there for you...Sometimes they may show you their love and suport in many ways.... sometimes they might simply be thinking of you
Just remember that it may be the opposite way around where your family might me the ones to go .... and your firends may be the ones to stay...

I hope we always have both our friends and families near by

[Sweetheart]

Assalamu alaykum my darlings and thankyou "your slave" for giving us an interesting quote to discuss.

May i add to it and to all the respondents of it that a friend can be family, can be husband and can be wife. But a true friend can also be a complete stranger and that is teh most common we see in life. A complete stranger is not as biased, not as prejudiced as a family member can be and a stranger is not nearly as judgmental and demanding as a husband or wife can be. That is probably what helps to make a stranger a better friend.

With a stranger you can be yourself

And now to look at friendship through the light of Islam we see many situations that definitely highlight the loyalty and sacrifice between friends.

My dear friends "Your servant, True Muslim and others,  take for example the marriage of our prophet (sallahu 3alahi wasalam) to lady Khadija. She was a wealthy trader from Makkah who owned trade caravans. She heard about the Prophet's great reputation and honesty and employed him to lead her caravans for her. Khadija looked beyond his ability to make her richer, she looked beyond his mesmerizing beauty and realized that Prophet Muhammad possessed special qualities, they were the qualities displayed by prophets.  After working for her for a while Khadija proposed marriage to him which he accepted. She became the first woman to support him in his call for Islam and it was a great loss for the prophet when she died in the 10th year after revelation. And when the prophet was shaken by the magnificent appearance of Jibril for the first time in the cave of 7irra2, he (sallalahu 3alay wa salam) came back to his wife for comfort, which she provided. He didn't go to a work associate or another acquaintance, he came to his wife, who was also his…..Friend.  To the prophet, Lady Khadija was in a class of her own. She meant a lot to the prophet even after his marriages to his nine wives and his admitted love for ^aisha. Still Khadija to him was more than a wife,,,,she was his confidant.

Islam calls for the ideal. It is ideal for spouses to be the best of friends, to be there for each other, especially when one is down. But rarely is this the actual case. How many husbands today would take a day off work to nurse a sick wife? How many husbands would take the time to even listen to her problems, thoughts or even opinions of his wife?? Some husbands wouldn't even postpone a fishing trip with friends if their wife is sick in bed. Yet the companion ^Othman bin ^Afan was content to stay behind and not be among the glorious fighters in the battle of badr, in order to nurse his wife Ruqaya during her illness. ^Othman stayed by Ruqaya's side nursing her until her death which followed soon after.

This is more than a spousal obligation,,,this is friendship and true love.

A friend is a friend even between different genders. Take the example of prophet Zakaria and how he assigned himself as Lady Maryam's guardian. Surat Maryam of the Quran speaks of how Zakaria used to look over Maryam and take care of her needs especially at the time when all were against her because she had appeared to be pregnant out of wedlock. Prophet Zakaria stood by her with sincerity.

Another picture of clear sacrifice among friends is seen through the men who first supported the prophet in his call to Islam and were the first to believe in him when even some family members did not. Many people of Makkah didn't believe Prophet Muhammad. Even his uncle who had raised him and loved him dearly, mocked him for making statement about the revelation.

The Baroness and the Captain convinced us that true friends don't need to come from family members and the life story of the prophet provides proof of that.

An interesting thought comes to mind as I write about the meaning of friend. It is that men named companions were ranked higher than kin. Ali being the prophets’ cousin wasn’t given a higher rank because he was kin. Rather our master Abu Bakr is ranked higher than Ali even as a companion to the prophet.

We can see another picture of true friendship in the circumstances surrounding the migration. The enemies sent 7 of their strongest men, each from a different tribe in their plot to kill the prophet and make it hard for the believers to take revenge. Their devilish strategy was to await the Prophet's exit from his home and batter him to death. They would then shed his blood and divide it amongst them and take it back to their seven different tribes.

True Muslim !!! Noor !!! Muhammad!!!! Your Servant !!!! all readers !!!!!! Please look at the extreme situation.

Notice how hard it would be today to be called to place our life in jeopardy for another. Yet the companions of the prophet did this out of their true love and support for him. Ali was called upon through angel Jibril to do just that. Ali Ibn-Abi-Talib was told to stay asleep in the prophets bed dressed in the prophets green gown, to make it look as if the prophet was still at home. Of course the enemies who were standing outside the prophets home all night were put to sleep and to add to their humiliation they awoke to find sand running down their faces left there by- non other that the Messenger of Allah himself, as he left during the night.  

And then we have the fright of being caught by the enemy for the sake of staying by our friend. The companion Abu Bakr did just that. He stood by his friend and prophet during their migration to Madina even though the enemies were fast on their trail. Ayah 40 in surat At-tawbah specifically mentions Abu Bakr as the Companion of the prophet who entered the cave with him and both were protected by the will of Allah. Nowadays if you expect as much as a phone call from your friend in times of hardship and some words of comfort, your expecting too much. Subhan allah.


What about the sacrifices made by the companions in the battle of Badr when the believers had to face triple their number of soldiers. There were 950 enemy fighters from Quraish. The enemy troop shared 900 shields between them, and 200 horses ready to attack the prophet. Prophet Muhammad left Madina with only 313 Muslims armed with their faith in Allah and swords. The 313 Muslims included 77 immigrant from Makkah and the rest from Al-Ansar of Madinah.

 Four walls, together we stand, apart we fall.

But the sacrifice was dear and deserving. Fourteen Muslims died as martyrs, six were from the immigrants and eight were from the Ansar. Blessed were those that joined the battle of Badr, for they are truly among the best of this nation in all things that count.

Of course we don't and shouldn't expect the same sacrifices from our friends if our need is not for the sake of Allah. But mostly we call on our friends in times when we need personal support, usually they are needs that satisfy the soul, the mind and to some extent our emotions. Where are those friends? :rolleyes:

[True Muslima]

bismillah 3laykeh

You expressed friendship in all it's meanings,

May God bless you

[Sami Yusuf Islam]

masha2allah !!

when did you have time to do all that sweetheart

I almost do not recognize the forum..... so many changes have been introduced, so many posts, so many new threads....


let me try to catch up a bit and then i will reply in detail incha2allah.

[Sweetheart]

This is a reply and a dedication to all who read "friends" and especially to the brightest "Sunshine" that ever did light my life..... ISLAM.

Assalamu alaykum readers and especially to brother Sunshine and sister Ture Muslim.

A7sanallah Illaykom, wa ja3alakom min ahl al-jeenan ana3eem.

I do what i do to gain reward from allah sub7anahu wa ta3ala. Being able to talk about the pages of life, issues and topics that interest and attract people, and portraying such through the paradigm of Islam is an aspiration.

I look around, i listen to people talk. And it tears me to pieces to listen to those people who have deliberatley deprived themselves the privilage of learning about Islam. And they speak nonesence. Utter nonesense. Here they go again listing thier illusion......"Westerers are better, they have knowledge, they have intellect,..." lk ya 3ammi shoo badak!!!..." ... they know the meaning of life, they have sincerity, they have respect for humanity, they have style, they have grace, they have a better upbringing of children, they have, they have, they have--------not like us", (thru the side of his mouth he goes on) "all we have is mashakel. Look at our life! Look at our marriages, our children our less learned people, our disrespect to humanity".  

And i look away with disgrace at the audacity of such who call themselves men and their pathetic description of such a mirage coming from people who would rather hide the glory of Islam than see it for what it really is......THE ORIGIN OF THE IDEAL EXISTANCE that they attribute to Westerers.

To me Islam is not just the saviour for the hereafter, it is our dignity in life on earth. It details and represents the rules, conventions and basis for an ideal civilization, one that other nations can only aspire to or borrow from.
However what's depressing is that the beauty of islam is camouflaged by the purely marketing tactics of other nations and by the lack of Islamic knowledge that some people are persistent to avoid. Westeners constitute copywrite laws,,but forget to abide by them when it becomes time to admit the islamic origin of their ideal philosophy. The Westerners appear with the noble laws against forgery and plagiarism yet  forget to attribute the ethics of civilization to Islam, when they speak of social security laws and other.

Was not prophet Adam the first Muslim and man on earth to teach his off springs the civilization of mankind and the ideals in dignity and honour??? Least of which was applying a name to all things. Was not propehet Idris another Muslim to set down the formular for civil engineering? Was not He the first to make writing with a pen a social convention??? Was not prophet Nu7 the first to set the standards of building ocean liners with the ark (the non-beleievers of his time had no name for it, let alone know what it could do). Was not prophet Sulayman the first to record the foundation of medicine, paving the way for further develpment?? Was not prophet Muhammad the Muslim who lifted women from the oppression of the dark ages by constituting for them rights and privileges???  Was not prophet Muhammad the Muslim who determined that women would be active members of society by assigning them duties and responsibiliites??? Islam lifted women to a worthy level. YES TO ALL

This is the beauty in Islam which unfortunatley is covered by the marketing of other cultures and nations and accepted by a passive consumer. This depressing state of publicity is what pushes me to write about Islam in a way to unviel it. To make all see that ISLAM is at the core of proper civilization. ISLAM is at the core of every field of study one may chose in any pompous, bourgeois, stuck up, high life, discriminatingly expensive university in the world. And ISLAM is free for all to learn. Free of prejudice, racism, gender discrimination, age limitations, knowledge pre-requisites, socio-economic background or location. Islam doesn't have a library for the poor and another for the rich. Both have equal access. In fact the most knowledgable scholars in history were the poor.

 YES Islam is the basis for an impressive, inspirational existance and i want all to see that. BUT SOME WILL NOT SMELL THE ROSE. :rolleyes:

IS THIS NOT THE CASE ??