Topic: why are people angry

[The Full Moon]

Dear Akbar

I appreciate your replies, and we are here to discuss matters (according to our own experiences I might add).
1- our own saftey is something we think we have control over but actually we do not. You do not who might snap at any moment and for resons other than what you are discussing with them.
you hear in the news (fathers, brothers, neighbours, strangers, just snap and kill, so if I will attempt to belive that I am safe anywhere I am fooling myself. But I just rely on God's protection and what he already decided for my (my fate)

2- If how strangers behave with me should not affect me to do something about it, then how are we applying the Islam: Our Prophet Peace be upon him told us what it means if you see something (monkar) not right you try to change it by your hand or tongue or heart.
If each one of us leave the new generation to do as they please without showing them right from wrong how are future will look like.

3- Rudness: like telling your father that he does not understand nothing, or telling your mother that is a lie, or telling a neighbor and everyone that what they are saying (when advising) is non of their business. Even if it is true; the things can be said in a nice way keeping in mind the guidance of Islam.
As for if me being rude and not knowing it, I wish people can point it out to me so I can notice the difference between being concern about what is best and the way I should have put it in words. Life is a learning journey and we do not stop learning until we die.

4- As for convincing someone of something; I take you to a person called (FutureAndHope) posts, they have a wrong ideas about God,Islam,Prophet Muhammad and Muslims. I cannot leave such person to spread and paint an ugly picture about our religion because I do not know them, and they have no effect on me personally, and they will not understand no matter what I say.

I have a duty to guide them as much as I can. Do I want for them to burn in Hell-fire for ever, for sure not. Do I walk away; I cannot.

I wish to see your reply, I know that it will help me in how to deal with future situations.

  Salam

[Akbar]

Tank you for continuing the discussion.

1. Talking about ensuring physical safety, I meant the situation when the person knows that he is dealing with rude or unpredictable person. It is like when crossing highway, person knows that there is a risk to his safety, and takes care of himself.

I believe that person should rely on Allah’s protection and also person should do as much as possible to ensure his safety.

As far as I know, during the wars, companions of out beloved prophet Muhammad (Sollollohu alayhi wassalam) did all the preparation to the war and made “tawwakul ala Allah” 

It is wrong approach when someone is relying on and at the time he is not doing anything.

I would add also, if you carry religious reliable knowledge, you have to take extra care of yourself. Especially if it is the knowledge of Tawhid.   May be you have to convey the knowledge at least to your children or any close people, because you do not want them to be in hellfire. Besides it is part of responsibility and understanding the importance of true and correct knowledge.

Some years ago, Sayings of scholars about the knowledge were posted in this forum

“Knowledge is the life of Islam. The one who ignores it is lost and misled. He swings with any wind and follows any caller”.

“Ignorance devastates its possessor as poison devastates the one who takes it.”

“Had it not been for necessity, we would not have allowed you to teach"

2. Discussion would be more productive, If you gave more details of stranger’s behavior that made you do smth about.

Regarding the hadith you mentioned,  It starts with “Man roa minkum munkaron fal yug’oyurhu ... “   related by Muslim, I heard it from the knowledgeable people. There is one condition for applying it. The condition is “what you undertake should not make the situation worse”     

When it comes to the new generation and showing them right from wrong, there is some order in showing them right from wrong. We have to start from teaching the minimum obligatory knowledge that everybody (mukallaf) should know.


3. Your understanding of rudeness is quite close to that in my culture. But I prefer to be more flexible. Like  I can say to my neighbor it is not his business, if I feel it is useful for him and I am not making the situation worse.


4. For those whose heart is open, the small convincing is enough. For those whose hart is blind, I will no be able to convince him until Allah “opens” his heart.

Wa alaykum assalam

[The Full Moon]

Alamdu Lillah

Thanks always to Allah, if we got it right it by his guidance.

1- For physical safety I am with you, a Muslim will not put himself in harms way and say we rely on Allah. That is something the Prophet Muhammad made very clear to his followers. And we do take necessary measurement then we rely. But I know a person who knew a person for long time and by some misunderstanding he killed him. We were chocked but then we had to get the understanding that what Allah willed will never be stopped or changed.

2-  I am totally with you, that it is our duty to learn and teach the obligatory knowledge learned from reliable people, and we do not stop there but keep on reviewing it so we do not forget what will save us at the end. And we should not stop on self and close family but try to spread it the way Prophet Muhammad's and his companions and followers did. Islam to all the humanity and to Jinn. If we stop spreading it we are going to be asked about the knowledge we acquired what did we do with it.

Religion knowledge is not for self only it is our duties to spread it..

One saying I did not understand : "Had it not been for necessity. we would not have allowed you to teach"
Does this mean that they allowed unreliable person to teach and then they regret doing that?

2- You cannot get to know strangers until you get very close to them, and sometimes it takes very long time.

If we have to stop the Munkar only by knowing how the other person will react then we will not be the best of the nations God had created.
Even close people will surprise you how they react to different subjects. I learned this the hard way. So when I find out their reaction is leading to worse I stop the discussion will not back up nor apologize nor encourage their ideas. But if that lead to blasphemy I had to find a way to cool down and to turn the subject around to get them back to Islam.. at that moment .. or try again after an hour .. then after a day .. and next day.. I will not be able to sleep knowing that a Muslim left Islam.

3- I cannot tell my neighbor it is not his business even if I think it, I will excuse myself and leave but in a nice way, each one of us represent our religion and I do not want anyone to think that this is the behavior Islam had called for.

Do you recall the story of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him when he called people of alTaif to Islam they lined up people on his way from both sides and they were hitting him with stones that his legs were bleeding badly. Angel Jebril appeared to him with the angel of the mountains and he informed him that Allah had sent them to do as he pleases and if he wants he may ask to close the two mountains on them as a punishment for what they did. He refused and said what it meant No because maybe Allah will bring out a Muslim believer from them. and at the same time he did not want them to die as blasphemers.

He cared, and he is our role model peace be upon him.
Our Prophet Peace be upon him was not discouraged and he does not want us to be discouraged.

4- Allah subhanahu did not give us the ability to see peopls hearts if they are hard or soft, and we cannot read their minds to know if they need one or ten or hundred times to open their harts and mind to understand Islam..

Please join us in spreading true religion of Islam, and do not stop because to the reward you get for getting someone to follow the true Islam is very great. Do not miss out. And as you said: we try and then we rely.

I am so encouraged by your posts.. you do not know how long I have been waiting to have a valuable beneficial discussion on Islam. I am sincerely appreciate reading your posts.

wa alykum-ussalam wa rahmatu-Llahy wa barakatuh

[amira ahludin]

If a small thing has the power to make you angry, does that not indicate something about your size?
Sometimes when I'm angry I have the right to be angry, but that doesn't give me the right to be cruel.
Anger is one letter short of danger
“Obey Allah and Allah will reward you.”

“If you are shameless, you would do as you wish.”

“Make sure your food is good (halaal and bought with halaal earnings), and you will be one whose prayers are answered.”

“Fear Allah wherever you may be.”

“Follow up a bad deed with a good deed, to waive it out.”

“Mix with people with a good attitude.”

[The Full Moon]

Dear Amira ahludin

We welcome you to Talk about Islam forum.
A new person always means a new thoughts and experiences. We hope to read more of your posts.

Welcome between your Muslim brothers and sisters.

salam

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