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Is my belief right??
« on: Thursday 09 April 2009, 03:31 »
I am a borned Muslim in Singapore and i have been confronted by my friend on my belief in my religion " Islam ". and i have search the web for answers and today , i really question myself, is my belief right? I am seeking my fellows brothers and sisters to read below and feel your heart and answer me honestly and genuinely

1. Why is the book , koran full of violence ? Yes, it only teaches us to retaliate , but why do we have to resort to violent? can we persuade them, talk peacefully?

2. why do i believe in a prophet who has so many wives and have sex with a 9 yo girls? this is really unacceptable , did Jesus or Buddha have a promiscuous life style??

3. is there a quote in the koran that promise that when you die, you will go to heaven to enjoy sex with virgins, and who are these virgins.

4. Why are terrorists muslim?? there must be something wrong with our koran !!

5. Why can't we live in peace with any other human on earth??

 

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Re: Is my belief right??
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 09 April 2009, 09:50 »
First sentence, he is not your friend, be rid of him.

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Re: Is my belief right??
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 09 April 2009, 09:51 »
You searched the  web for answers? wrong place to search, seek guidnce from your local Imam.     stop lying

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Re: Is my belief right??
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 09 April 2009, 20:08 »
Toma_tto;

I read your post and I have few answers and questions for you:

I am a borned Muslim in Singapore and i have been confronted by my friend on my belief in my religion " Islam ". and i have search the web for answers and today , i really question myself, is my belief right? I am seeking my fellows brothers and sisters to read below and feel your heart and answer me honestly and genuinely


Being a Muslim does not mean having a Muslim parents only.
You have a duty to learn about Islam and understand what it calls for.
When that is done you will have no doubts about it.
I agree with curioustraveler, you do not learn Islam from internet but from a knowledgeable Muslim. I hope you will do that, then you will have all your questions answered.


1. Why is the book , koran full of violence ? Yes, it only teaches us to retaliate , but why do we have to resort to violent? can we persuade them, talk peacefully?


You do not understand Islam so how can you understand Quran? from the internet too?
Islam does not call for violence. Does the Bible call for Violence. They both call for the spread of  the religion, and fighting the people who wants to destroy it, and its people.
Do you know that in Quran it calls for peace, forgiveness, kindness....too?


2. why do i believe in a prophet who has so many wives and have sex with a 9 yo girls? this is really unacceptable , did Jesus or Buddha have a promiscuous life style??


The one who created us knows what is best for us. Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is the best of Allah's creation. We believe in him because that is the order of Allah. To be a Muslim is to obey Allah's orders.

He did not marry because he loved women, he married his first wife who was 40 years old when he was in his twenties (25). He remained with her, and only her until she died at the age of 65.. So he was 50, and he stayed without a woman for the next two years, raising his girls alone. Does this sound like a man who wanted younger girls?! Definitely not.
And his next wife was 80 years old..

All his wives (May god blessed them all) except for " Aisha" were married some once and some more before he married them. The girls at that environment and time were maturing much earlier than now, and marrying her was acceptable by the society, and her, her parents.  If there is something you do not like or understand, does not make it wrong.

Qurayish offered prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) the most beautiful girls of his tripe and to make him the richest and he refused with no hesitation. What do you say about that?

Each marriage had a reason and had a purpose, and none were for what you think.. and that is why he is the best of God's creation.He (peace be upon him).is not like any man


4. Why are terrorists muslim?? there must be something wrong with our koran!!

5. Why can't we live in peace with any other human on earth??

Are you telling me that the people who got killed in Vietnam were killed by Muslims! and the people in Uganda, Nigeria, Rwanda..Ireland, Nepal..
Was Hitlar a Muslim? ??? !

Muslims live all over the world in peace with other people form different background and religion.
 
Do you know how many Muslims in the world?
 Can you tell me, what percentage of them terrorist?

Open your eyes, and do not look at "Islam" through a distorted lenses. Learn about it before accusing Islam and Muslims.



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Re: Is my belief right??
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 April 2009, 10:59 »
Bro Tomma, Islam is not only a religion its a way of life, yes its absolutely necessary to follow the 5 pillars of Islam but its not all, you have to be soft spoken, honest, righteous and steadfast in your religion and to follow the commandments of Allah, So you still be called or understood or taken as a Moslem if you wear jeans or t-shirt in the mall.
 
Often the Non-Moslem accuse Islam of violence, Brother Islam is a monotheistic relgion alongwith Judaism and Christianity and the basis of monotheism is to believe in the power, existence and supremacy of One Supreme God - So with this note all Idolatory and pagan practices are abolihsed. Why the Non-Moslem label Islam as violent because Allah says and declares that He is the One God and so we must fight (means to educate, preach and teach) people of not to get involded into Idolatory. If the other so-called people of the book have removed this vital and crucial statement from their books to unite against Idolatory, this is not the fault or mistake of Islam and they have to blame themselves - Monotheism means the belief in One God, period.
 
Brother, as far as wives are concerned, please keep in mind that Prophet Mohammad's first wife Hazrat Khadija was 15 years senior from him in age, do they (the non-moslems) appreciate this??? they all are here to shake you up and to build a certain "distaste" inside of you. After the death of first wife he married all over-aged, widowed women to gain influence and respect in the Arab tribes, ofcourse this was the reason - Also you need to go into that time period and also have to consider the Arab traditions in mind - Hazrat Ayesha you mentioned was the only exception and the only virgin Prophet Mohammad pbuh married.
 
I don't know how old are you but you must go back in 1980 when Moslem countries provided full support to USA against the atheists of Soviet Union, well, there was No Muslim fundamentalism visible in that period??? why???
 
Moslems are not nuts or maniacs, we follow our religion and certainly do not blame or accuse others but why, have you ever considered that why are we accused to keeping our ladies behind veils, while their ladies srtoll half or almost naked in public, is this decency or the civilized way??? Even the Christianity asks women to cover up, so who is wrong here???
 
Please also keep in mind that this is a global campaign to psycologically, financially, physically, ideologically remove or damage Islam, Moslems and their religious system, which is the only "threat" they think comes in between their Satanic and Evil designs.
 
They wrongfully accuse Islam by spreading through sword, remember Khawaja Moinuddin Chishti a pious oldman in India who converted 9 million Hindus to Islam, Bro, he was all alone living in a hut made of palm branches besides river ganges - He prayed 24 hours to Allah and thats iit.
 
In the current changing global scenario, we have to know that Its the true Islamic Spirituality is there to counter the Western Materialism, we don't object to it but we must not be a part of it.
 
We are not here to worship money, we have One God and we must submit ourselves to Him and Him only.
 
Thanks and be steadfast and read good authentic books on Islam, if you need some names, just let me know. 

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Re: Is my belief right??
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 14 April 2009, 01:40 »
salaam,tomato welcome to the forums. Nice nickname!
 
Just to add on what TheFull Moon already answered, Islam as a religion doesnt allow extremism nor total lack of carelessnes in it. So to summarise, Islam is a :"middle religion".
The terrorists out there are not true Muslims, but the extremists or/with wrong beliefs about Islam.
islam teaches peace, and the word islam itself means peace. When the Prophet Mohammad (sallalahu alayhi *wa salaam) called people to Islam , there were those who opposed and wanted the prophet to stop calling people to islam. thats when the prophet fought against those people.
Sadly today, lots of people interpret Qur';an and Islam the way they wanttoo, instead of the way they must. Its so easy to be mislead from the right belief.
Please look into the religion Islam from a right person who will explain it to you. (Imam), ( we all need to)
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once again welcome to the forums
 
 

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Re: Is my belief right??
« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 September 2009, 01:36 »

1. Why is the book , koran full of violence ? Yes, it only teaches us to retaliate , but why do we have to resort to violent? can we persuade them, talk peacefully?

In Islam there is no such verse of spreading violence. One is only allowed to pick up the sword...when the enemy drives you out of your home....surely then you have the right to defend. You should see the Islamic rules of War.....Modern world has just come up with the Amnesty laws...but they were present in the Quran 1400 years ago.

2. why do i believe in a prophet who has so many wives and have sex with a 9 yo girls? this is really unacceptable , did Jesus or Buddha have a promiscuous life style?? The Prophet had wives. Distinguish this from the many girl-friends a person will have before they settle down with the right person. Distinguish this from the many affiars other have. Distinghish this form the un-law ful relationships. ....you'll have your answer. The 9 yo was his wife. And in that time, the physical and mature level of a 9 yo was different. In the western society, a 9 yo knows all there is about reproduction etc. Furthermore, would at least there was no sexual abuse of a 9 yo!!!

3. is there a quote in the koran that promise that when you die, you will go to heaven to enjoy sex with virgins, and who are these virgins.

4. Why are terrorists muslim?? there must be something wrong with our koran !!
America the biggest terrorist nation = not MuslimPreists who abuse children = not muslimMany attacks have been done = not muslim

5. Why can't we live in peace with any other human on earth??
You tell me!!!!

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Re: Is my belief right??
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 20 October 2009, 07:24 »
First sentence, he is not your friend, be rid of him.

Assalamalaikum wa rahamatullahi wa barakatuhu

May Allah forgive us our sins and guide us to the straight path...

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Re: Is my belief right??
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 03 November 2009, 06:24 »
I have been resarching the  Qu'ran (not internet) and found That Muhammad didn't really have the characteristics of a "prophet".So what you are thinking is correct when thinking it is weird for an old man to sleep with a little girl...(when Aisha (the daughter of Abu Bakr, Mohammad's closest friend
and unquestioning ally) was about 4-5 years old Muhammad started dreaming of a union with her
[Ref: SAHIH BUKHARI, 5:235] and he wasted no time in realizing his dreams, inspite of the
fact that object of his dreams was a mere child.Perhaps you want to assume that it is
"normal" for a 50+ year old man to dream of marrying a 4-5 old child, and then ACTUALLY ask
for her hand at 6? Not to mention consumating(having sex) with a little girl at 9 when he is 50+ yrs old.So, Aisha was betrothed to Muhammad, and 3 years later, i.e. when Aisha was 9, the marriage was
consumed. And Muhammad was 53 then [SAHIH BUKHARI
1991:236,7:64,7:65,7:88.'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari
page 143, Vol.13)Aisha became Muhammad's favourite wife. And the sexuality in the relationship was predominant [
SAHIH BUKHARI .1.270, 3:36, 7:6, 3:148, 3:149, 3:150, 7:142, IbnSa'd 1pg165 ]. Later, Aisha was to
be called the "mother of believers". If you are wandering, yes, the relationship was pedophilic.
 It's completely natural to be thinking what you are. I have been studying the Qu'ran and found it extremely contradicting. With 15+ direct contradictions. If Muhammad was a prophet and he recieved his "revelations" from "Allah" then how can he be so contradicting.? How can a  God inspired "prophet" be a pedophile. I find the same thing written in the Qu'ran. Not to mention the inconsistencies with the relation to the (injeel) and (torah). I would like a direct answer to these questions also...minus the "you need to consult someone wise"rutine. Buddist do that. What makes islam Holy?

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Re: Is my belief right??
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 03 November 2009, 06:31 »
And how are we to understand and know about Islam and the Qu'ran if you just "be rid of us"....because we are not your friends?. It seems you only accept people like you. So if i am a cathilic or Buddist..Am I your enemy?

 



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