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Dutch minister: Arabs need to learn more about Holocaust, Jews need to study Palestinian 'Nakba' 
 
By Cnaan Liphshiz 
 
Tags: anti-Semitism, Jewish World   
In a call to include Muslims in Holland's Auschwitz memorial event, the Dutch integration minister on Thursday said that Arabs needed to learn about the Holocaust and that Jews need "better understand" the Naqba. The Moroccan-Dutch community said its members will attend the memorial.
Minister Eberhard van der Laan from the Dutch Labor party is quoted as telling local media that "just as Arabs should acknowledge the Holocaust, so must Jews understand what the Nakba means for Palestinians," adding: "There is suffering on both sides."
He also said that the "problems in Gaza served to agitate hatred between Jews and Arabs," and that this problem "must not be allowed to be imported."
 
On Friday, the coordinating body for Moroccan and Muslim associations in the Netherlands announced it will be sending members to participate for the first time in Sunday's remembrance event for Holocaust victims at Amsterdam's Auschwitz memorial site.
Last week, the committee arranging the annual event dis-invited a Dutch member of Parliament from the Socialist Party, Harry van Bommel, after he was filmed attending a demonstration against Israel's actions in Gaza where a crowd was chanting "Hamas, Hamas, Jews to the Gas."
The Moroccan community's announcement came after Dutch prime minister met with Jewish leaders, who told him they were concerned about a reported rise in anti-Semitism in Holland following Israel's Operation Cast Lead. The community leaders asked the prime minister for more protection for Jewish institutions and facilities.
Balkenende later met with Muslim leaders on Friday in an apparent effort to revive Jewish-Muslim dialogue following Operation Cast Lead.
The Dutch Jewish community has taken its concerns over a series of apparent anti-Semitic attacks to the prime minister, asking for better security.
Ronny Naftaniel of the Center for Information and Documentation on Israel says there have been at least four attacks on synagogues since Israel began its three-week offensive against Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip in late December.
He says that so far no one has been hurt and damage has been minimal, but anti-Israel demonstrations during the Gaza operation were marred by anti-Semitic slogans. One was attended by a leftist member of parliament.
Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende met Muslim leaders Friday and Jewish leaders Thursday night in an apparent effort to revive Jewish-Muslim dialogue

 
Source: Haaretz
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1058222.html

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The Dutch Minsiter needs to read an article by Benjamin H. Freedman, if anybody needs it, let me know., its a must read article,a s the name suggests Mr. Benjamin himself was Jewish.

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Although these two tragedies are distinctly different, what they do share is a profound psychological and emotional imprint on the survivors and their descendents which need be understood and respected as they form the key motivators for their respective actions and their respective demands for conflict resolution.

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I seriously and sincerely believe that Jews "exaggerate" the figure, they did it to gain the sympathy of the "then" superpower and finally they got what they wanted, not forgetting biting the "hand" that fed them by blowing up their military convoys, King David Hotel and performing other acts of terror against British military stationed in Palestine.

On the other hand, since they (Jews) know what pile of rubbish they have created and now they are scared that a helluva lot of people are actually dying to know the truth, they have collaborated with different governments and "freedom of speech" is literally lynched by arresting, jailing, deporting and destroying anyone who speaks against the Holo-Hoax.   

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Silk,
What you "seriously believe" is irrelevant to the facts well-researched concerning the Holocaust.
That you justify your belief based on a bias of Jews as conniving and deceptive is, well, concerning.
Holocaust deniers are just stupid.
As are those who deny there were ever any "Palestinians."

Sounds like you would benefit from "learning more about the Holocaust" as per this thread's title.

Good Shabbos.

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History

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Shalom and how sweet of you. But obviously its "your co-coreligionists) who are forgetting the value of life, if a nation that has gone to a lot of hell and supposedly through a misery as big as this, you guyz should have learned and respected the "Life" and would have preferred to live peacefully instead of opening Eastern European guns ON Arab Moslem neighbors who were mostly peasants.

..and we would be obliged to you if you can give us some names of Arab Terrorist Organizations operating in Palestine between 1900 to 1948. Please note that Irgun, Haganah and Stern gang were not being run by Arabs. 

For that: The Gun and the olive Branch by David Hirst

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Why not start a new thread, Silk.
You're (again) taking this one way off topic.
I understand you have your own anti-Israel anti-Jew agenda that permeates every post, but it is sometimes nice to listen to a different tune every once and a while.
And this thread began as one.
Understanding the Naqba as do Palestinians do and the Holocaust as do Jews (or just Israelis) would be good for both peoples.

Respectfully,
History

P.S. One of the lessons Jews learned from the Holocaust is that one would need be willing to fight those who seek to destroy you.  The historical passive coward dhimmi Jew stereotype need be placed with a Jew willing to fight for his survival and that of his children.  The Arab Jewish refugees from Muslim-majority countries are the most vocal and active in this belief based on their experiences.
P.S.S.  FYI:  http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/preistoc.html

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How many Arab Terrorist Organizations were operating in Palestine from 1900 to 1948???
The Answer of the above givne question is the ultimate truth!!! Just say NO- BTW the obvious truth is that you can't "digest" the truth and its also against your "moral values" to accept that you did wrong to Arab Moslems and the Eastern Jewry took it too far to reside in Ha'aretz Israel???.

Your problem is that you are parroting the same crap that is told to you, reading the history is gonna help you a lot.[/]

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The Holocaust Industry by Norman Finkelstein
 
Dissecting the Holocaust by Ernst Zundel
 
Did Six Million Really die? by Rudolf Germar

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how many did die,what is this HOlacaust you speak of?

 



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