Topic: Laylatul Qadr

[Ummkulthum]

Laylat al-Qadr and its timing

2 The best of its nights is Laylat al-Qadr, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: 'Whoever prays at night during Laylat al-Qadr {and manages to catch it} out of faith and the hope of reward, all his previous sins will be forgiven'.

3 According to the most correct opinion, it is the twenty-seventh night of Ramadaan. Most of the ahaadeeth state this, such as the hadeeth of Zurr ibn Hubaysh, who said: I heard Ubayy ibn Ka'b saying 'and it was said to him that 'Abd-Allaah ibn Mas'ood said: 'Whoever follows the Sunnah will catch Laylat al-Qadr! Ubayy (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: 'May Allaah have mercy on him, he did not want people to take it for granted and only stay up to pray on one night. By the One besides Whom there is no other god, it is in Ramadaan  he was swearing without a doubt and by Allaah, I do know which night it is. It is the night in which the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) commanded us to pray (qiyaam). It is the night the morning of which is the twenty seventh, and the sign of it is that the sun rises on that morning white and without rays.

In another report, this was attributed to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

(Reported by Muslim and others).

[Mazhar]

Certainly We have sent him {The Book; Al Quran) in a  particular Night {of the month of  Ramazan} wherin  all matters/commands  are disclosed  {for implementation}

And  what  is  that  which could give you the perception as to which/what is the Settling/Decisive Night?
{it  is enough to know} Settling/Decisive Night  is better than a  thousand months.

By the Will/permission of Allah,  during that night, Angels and Gibrael, with command/decision/decree on every matter/affair, come down intermittently;
secure and safe in  her  till  the  break of  morning. {Al Qadr 1-5}

According to this the particular Night could be any night in the month of Ramazan. The conjectural stories spread forget to remember what Allah is asking the Messenger:
And  what  is  that  which could give you the perception as to which/what is the Settling/Decisive Night? {Al Qadr:02}

[Ummkulthum]

According to this the particular Night could be any night in the month of Ramazan.

A sound report from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) indicates that the sign of Laylat al-Qadr is that the sun rises on the following morning with no visible rays. Ubayy ibn Ka’b used to swear that it was the night of the twenty-seventh, citing this sign as evidence. The more correct view is that it moves through all the last ten nights, but it is most likely to be one of the odd-numbered nights, and the night of the twenty-seventh is the most likely among the odd-numbered nights. Whoever strives in worship during all of the last ten nights, praying, reading Qur’aan, making du’aa’ and other kinds of good deeds will undoubtedly catch up with Laylat al-Qadr and attain what Allaah has promised to those who do that out of faith and seeking reward.

[Ummkulthum]

The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to strive hard in worship during the last ten days of Ramadaan as he never did at any other time, praying, reading Qur’aan and making du’aa’. Al-Bukhaari and Muslim narrated from ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) that when the last ten days of Ramadaan came, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) would stay up at night and would wake his family up, and would abstain from marital relations. Ahmad and Muslim narrated that he used to used to strive hard in worship during the last ten days of Ramadaan as he never did at any other time.

[Sami Yusuf Islam]

may Allah bless you both and reward you for this very helpful topic.

indeed, it is the great night of predestination / decisive night.

and yes it often often comes on the 27th....... (but not always)

[Mazhar]

A sound report from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) indicates that the sign of Laylat al-Qadr is that the sun rises on the following morning with no visible rays.

How this could be considered as "sound report" when the very demarcation line for the beginning of "Saum" is dependent upon the rays of the sun while still below horizon?
There is no such sun in the entire universe which is without rays as per the information given in the Quran.
Even it won't appeal to the common sense of a single soul on earth. And Islam's every information is pure logical and rational.

[Mazhar]

used to strive hard in worship during the last ten days of Ramadaan as he never did at any other time, praying, reading Qur’aan

This too is poorly worded and is in direct conflict rather negates the information given in the Surat Al Muzzamil {73rd}

[Sami Yusuf Islam]

This too is poorly worded and is in direct conflict rather negates the information given in the Surat Al Muzzamil {73rd}

this needs explanation Mazher. it is not clear enough

[Ummkulthum]

Assalamu alaikum Brother,

How this could be considered as "sound report" when the very demarcation line for the beginning of "Saum" is dependent upon the rays of the sun while still below horizon?
There is no such sun in the entire universe which is without rays as per the information given in the Quran.
Even it won't appeal to the common sense of a single soul on earth. And Islam's every information is pure logical and rational.

Firstly, I'd like to say that i have taken this information from a very good site. I can also give you the article reference number through which you can read this from, inshaAllah. (www.islamqa.com Ref No: 21905)

I understand that I have not given any reference to this hadith in pariticular, of which i am searching for, and will also inform the site about. Having said all this, after i have searched more into this particular hadith, and if i find that my information was wrong, i would willingly accept is as a fault and correct myself inshaAllah.

Furthermore, I have stated about the ‘more correct’ view if i may show you again, in my post:

A sound report from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) indicates that the sign of Laylat al-Qadr is that the sun rises on the following morning with no visible rays. Ubayy ibn Ka’b used to swear that it was the night of the twenty-seventh, citing this sign as evidence. The more correct view is that it moves through all the last ten nights, but it is most likely to be one of the odd-numbered nights, and the night of the twenty-seventh is the most likely among the odd-numbered nights. Whoever strives in worship during all of the last ten nights, praying, reading Qur’aan, making du’aa’ and other kinds of good deeds will undoubtedly catch up with Laylat al-Qadr and attain what Allaah has promised to those who do that out of faith and seeking reward.

Moving onto your next issue:

This too is poorly worded and is in direct conflict rather negates the information given in the Surat Al Muzzamil {73rd}

I do not understand as to how what i have written about the Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wa sallam), praying and reading much more during the last ten days, conflicts with what is written in the Qur'an? Again, if you read below brother, you will see that this sentence just puts an emphasis upon the hadith (which is now in bold) about him (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) worshipping more than the usual times...Please can you further clarify your concern, jazakAllahu khaira!

The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to strive hard in worship during the last ten days of Ramadaan as he never did at any other time, praying, reading Qur’aan and making du’aa’. Al-Bukhaari and Muslim narrated from ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) that when the last ten days of Ramadaan came, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) would stay up at night and would wake his family up, and would abstain from marital relations. Ahmad and Muslim narrated that he used to used to strive hard in worship during the last ten days of Ramadaan as he never did at any other time.

Wa alaikum assalam

[Mazhar]

Firstly, I'd like to say that i have taken this information from a very good site. I can also give you the article reference number through which you can read this from, inshaAllah. (www.islamqa.com Ref No: 21905)

I understand that I have not given any reference to this hadith in pariticular, of which i am searching for

No debate about this. Search is no doubt a good thing but searching something while denying existence of daylight and sun's rays is perhaps strange pursuit.