Topic: Adam (one person or type of people?)

[dnasims]

I know this question may sound stupid, but I would like to learn the truth. 

All the truth.

With no mistranslations.

I have a book “The Meaning of The HOLY QUR’AN”.  It is the HOLY QUR’AN with note to help under stand it.

In 2:36, the translator says.

“Then did Satan make them slip from the (Garden), and get them out.
Of the state (of felicity) in which They had been. We said:
“Get ye down, all (ye people53),
With enmity between yourselves.
On earth will be your dwelling place
And your means of lively hood for a time””

In note 53 he points out that, the plural form was used in Arabic, and that this may be because.
1.   That no distinction in sexes for the Arabic word so Adam And Eve (plural
2.   That Adam Eve and Satan all thrown out so plural.
3.   Alternatively, that Adam could have been a type of man.  One made from clay. Rather than just one man.


In Islamic beliefs, do they state that Adam was A type of man, and therefore more than one?

If not how does Islamic faith, explain the fact that so many people were born from just two people?

I have heard the incest theory; the Angles slept with the female theory, and that there were other people on earth besides Adam and Eve.

All of this along with Adam was a type of person theory.

Which of these theories does the Islamic faith support?



Salam
Dan Sims
 

[Emilee]

Adam was the first man on earth, and Eve (hawa) was his wife.
We know from Qur'an that from them, that all the humanity exists.

they had children, and their children had children, etc.. until it was revealed by Allah not to marry one's relatives or brothers and sisters.

have heard the incest theory; the Angles slept with the female theory, and that there were other people on earth besides Adam and Eve.

thats not true.

[Mazhar]

Adam was the first man on earth, and Eve (hawa) was his wife.
We know from Qur'an that from them, that all the humanity exists.

One exception need always be mentioned. He is Easa Ibne Maryam, Ease {alahissalam} son of Syeda Maryam Siddiqa. He is NOT Bani Adam i.e. posterity of Adam. He is Misle Adam, comparable to Adam, the first Man created. It also need to be noted that Quran has not stated these words  "that from them, that all the humanity exists".

[whatislam]

hello dan

i was given an explanation about Adam and Eve and the story of Genesis - but it wasn't from a nun or religious cleric so you will have to judge yourself as to whether it is worth or worthless...  it is from a Christian (however i don't think it is the USUAL Christian viewpoint).

she said that the way she understood Genesis story was thus:

God made man and woman as it says initially in the Bible ---- then these men and women fell away from God and into sin so... God THEN made Adam and Eve and protected them in an enclosed Garden (separated from the rest of the world and fallen people) but one of the fallen people from the outside got into the garden and tempted Eve into the pleasure of sex (the serpent) - he was not a snake initially hence could talk etc. but was turned into one "from now on you will crawl on your belly".... 

Eve then went back and tempted Adam into the pleasure of sex and then they "knew" themselves in a sexual way (this was the eating of the forbidden fruit) 

God therefore expelled them from his protected Garden of Eden because he thought they might also eat from the tree of Life and live forever so they were sent out into the world where there were already a large population (of fallen-away people).

then Eve had twins from these encounters: one child "Cain" was the child of the "serpent" and the other child "Abel" was the child of Adam.  this is why God rejected Cain's gift but accepted that of Abel --- Cain, however, became angry at this and killed his brother, Abel.

Cain was then condemned to wander the earth for this murder - but this is why Cain could then marry someone from outside so quickly etc. etc. and why he needed the mark to protect him

it all sounds a very complicated story to me ------- and i admit it doesn't make a lot of sense at all from my viewpoint but that is the way she explained Genesis to me!   

i don't think this is an "orthodox" explanation however!!!!!

[The Full Moon]

I know this question may sound stupid, but I would like to learn the truth. 

All the truth.

With no mistranslations.

I have a book “The Meaning of The HOLY QUR’AN”.  It is the HOLY QUR’AN with note to help under stand it.

In 2:36, the translator says.

“Then did Satan make them slip from the (Garden), and get them out.
Of the state (of felicity) in which They had been. We said:
“Get ye down, all (ye people53),
With enmity between yourselves.
On earth will be your dwelling place
And your means of lively hood for a time””

In note 53 he points out that, the plural form was used in Arabic, and that this may be because.
1.   That no distinction in sexes for the Arabic word so Adam And Eve (plural
2.   That Adam Eve and Satan all thrown out so plural.
3.   Alternatively, that Adam could have been a type of man.  One made from clay. Rather than just one man.

Salam
Dan Sims

Dear Dan


We all look for the truth, and we will hear so many opinions, but when you learn about religion specially Islam the knowledge is acquired from three sources to complete the picture and put together the pieces:

1- The Holy Quran (in Arabic )
2- The saying of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him
3- The interpretations of reliable scholars (and here where people will find different sayings)

I will tell you the story relying mostly on the first two:
Allah after creating the skies and earths and Angles and Jinn, he created Adam (one person) from different kinds of earth soil and water from heaven, and he was shaped in the shape Allah wanted.
Later Allah created a wife for him (Eve) 7awa' .

Allah made no restrictions on them except not to eat from a tree (we do not know what kind it was) .

The devil objected to the order of Allah to prostrate  to Adam (saying I am better than him I was created from fire) so Allah punished him to be out of heaven forever. The devil asked Allah to be give the chance to prove that the human is no better than him and he can make them disobey if he was given the chance.
The devil became an enemy of human until the day of judgment.
It became his life mission to do all that he can to mislead humans, to have as many as he can out of heaven.

He kept on Adam and Eve  whispering the benefits of that tree until (they) eat from it, and Allah got them out of Heaven and down to earth, where they had off springs. Let it be known that Adam and Eve repented immediately after sinning and they were forgiven but it was Allah's will for them to come down to earth.

Hope this clarifies this matter.

Salam

[Mazhar]

Let it be known that Adam and Eve repented immediately after sinning and they were forgiven but it was Allah's will for them to come down to earth.

Brother,
 
Always be carefull with the selection of words when you are attributing it to Grand Quran. Quran nowhere alleges "sinning" on the part of Adam alaihissalam. Instead it says "fa naseya", "therefore for that reason he forgot [earlier advice/restriction imposed]". And it has also been told that he had no intention/willfull desire/resolve for doing that act of tasting the fruit of that particular female tree. Only he got fascinated by conjectural statement of Iblis about that tree which made him become unmindful of earlier advice. And he regretted it and sought apology, which was granted. "Sin story" is just conjecture/scum.
 
Even today Iblis and his friends keep spreading conjectural matter which has element of fascination, creating a desire and hope which people quite conveniently buy it and become easy prey.
 
The only way to safe oneself is to keep segregating what people say and what actually is written in the Grand Quran which is the Word of Allah, like those words "You both do not go near to this particular female tree".

[whatislam]

hello mazhar

i wonder whether you could tell me if in the Quran it has two versions of man being created - as it does in the Old Testament in the Bible.

In the OT - first G_d creates man and woman - then later G_d creates Adam first then Eve from a rib of Adam.  is that the same in the Quran or different?

[whatislam]

Genesis 1:26-27 (King James Version)   
 26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.




above is the story of the first creation (in case it is not in the Quran and you have no idea what i am talking about!) - then afterward in Genesis 2 there is the story of Adam and Eve.

[Mazhar]

Thanks whatislam.
 
Pl give me little time. I will try to quickly translate it in English since my earlier work on the Creation of Adam and then his wife {I do not know her name since Allah has not told me in the Quran; He just refers her as Adam's wife/co partnmer] and Adam's posterity/progeny {in Arabic Nasl} to which you and me belong, is in Urdu.
 
Grand Quran has given an elaborate account of Adam's creation and then has explained the entire process involved, even to minute detail, in the creation of human beings. It is to such an extent that the creation of sperm, its journey inside male's body is also conspicously explained. This aspect of the whole phenomenon can be read here:
http://www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/002.%20Meanings%20and%20Tabweeb%20of%20words/011.%20Ejacularted%20Prostrate%20Gland/11.%20Created%20from%20drop%20emitted.htm

[The Full Moon]

Genesis 1:26-27 (King James Version)   
 
 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

above is the story of the first creation (in case it is not in the Quran and you have no idea what i am talking about!) - then afterward in Genesis 2 there is the story of Adam and Eve.

I know that this is one of the difference we have with some Christian.
Muslims has to believe that Allah created Adam in the shape and form Allah willed for him (Adam).
In Quran there is a very clear ayah (11) Surat AlShura (42)
The Creator of the heavens and the earth. He hath made for you pairs of yourselves, and of the cattle also pairs, whereby He multiplieth you. Naught is as His likeness; and He is the Hearer, the Seer.

This ayah confirms that Allah does not resemble any of his creations.

Kindly visit :
 http://talkaboutislam.com/forums/index.php/topic,3034.0.html

Salam