Topic: Sex Education!

[mani]

Do you think that sex-education shall be made a part of curriculum?

[fraudulent]

no. that thought was based on a free-mind free-sex society. what's the point to teach about sex at school?

[silkworm]

I think that especially in US, the Asian Moslem kids who have moved to US from India, Pakistan or Bangladesh already ar going through a "cultural-shock" like boy and girl kissing on campus, or hugging each other etc. now this is not a "usual" scenario for a kid coming from a very shy background.
 
However, the adults might take pride in learning to avoid certain situations and definitely would help them, but then comes our girls who with their natural shyness would be hard hit with this. 

[The Full Moon]

Dear  silkworm

You narrowed the question to a certain group the new comers. Let us keep it in the General aspects.

For new comers and children born in US for immigrant parents, I have found that it is usually left to the parents to decide if their children should attend these classes or not. And schools do accommodate their feelings and preferences.

Now, when faced with this decision, talking with the child will be most helpful.
Some children will want to know, and I prefer for them to know it through a teacher and class setting. And you as a parent we still have the option of giving our consent for our children to attend the class and how much information we deem acceptable.

some children are not ready to know when the classes are offered and therefore should not be forced to attend.

It is no longer up to us to decide what our children will learn and when, let face it, everything is available on the internet and at libraries.

 I feel it is better to learn it as a subject at school instead of hearing about it from someone like friends who might embellish on the subject or tease over certain topics.

The children these days are not what they used to be, and few months in a country like US will teach them things their parents did not know until they were married.

Still that is my personal opinion, and each one of us has to make the decision that suits their believes and family situations.

Best salam
 

[farrah]

Yes, As a single mother I find it very hard to talk to my son about many things. Sometimes I will scold him for doing something WRONG and he will keep asking,"What did I do"? And I do not have the language to explain. In USA it is different.
 Muslims girls do not date when Muslim boys want to. Result: They are not getting married. Should I tell my daughter to DATE?? Never.I cannot preach that to my daughter. They say there should be youth parties/dinners where they can have a chance to see eachother. I wonder if this allowed in Islam. Or  should we CHANGE because it is USA.
 
 

[Emilee]

depends what the sex education is all aiming at. Is it there to help young people ( esecially non muslims) educate them about dangers of unprotected sex, diseases that there are, and so on.
I have had a subject who was about sex education in my high school years, but I chose not to participate. It was quite inappropriate of contents plus there were males and females mixed together in one class.
 
 

Yes, As a single mother I find it very hard to talk to my son about many things. Sometimes I will scold him for doing something WRONG and he will keep asking,"What did I do"? And I do not have the language to explain. In USA it is different.
 Muslims girls do not date when Muslim boys want to. Result: They are not getting married. Should I tell my daughter to DATE?? Never.I cannot preach that to my daughter. They say there should be youth parties/dinners where they can have a chance to see eachother. I wonder if this allowed in Islam. Or  should we CHANGE because it is USA.
 
 

 
Dear sis,
 
I share your point. But a female separated from males class.It is quite useful actually, but the lessons that are taught I guess would be such as "sex before marriage advices and concerns" which does not concern us, muslims.

 

[silkworm]

Hell, I am not against the sex education but how about distributing condoms among the teenagers, doesn't it sound like "provocation" don't you think this is wrong???
 
Ofcourse the children should be taught the pros and cons of sexual freedom and sexual abuse, and they should be also "informed" to identify the thin line between them.

[whatislam]

i wonder about it.  we never had such a thing as sex education when i was at school!  that doesn't mean it is wrong, of course...

i don't know....  does it help at all? 

i think how we coped not having any sex education classes was just through a sense of strong self-esteem and general common sense. 

one had enough sense and self-esteem not to be pressurised into doing something that you didn't want to do - and at the same time had a enough basic knowledge of biology to know that pregnancy is generally the result (unless you are infertile or whatever the case may be) of sexual intercourse without any contraception.

the whole other side of it --- as in one "shouldn't" for moral or religious reasons was never brought up, that's for sure.  it was just assumed that one wouldn't, i guess?

in general, the whole subject was NOT discussed at all - in the whole of my childhood by either school-teachers or parents!  i think back and i am not sure if we had any knowledge but then again, sex wasn't quite the HUGE issue it seems to have become nowadays.  and it wasn't all over the TV or all over the media to the same extent, at all.

i also went to a single-sex school so perhaps that was why it was felt not necessary to have sex education classes - perhaps it was simply assumed that we would find everything out eventually......... ...................

is the point of sex education classes to reduce the amount of teenage pregnancies/abortions/young single mothers/sexually transmitted diseases etc.?  or what is the goal of these classes exactly.

i don't mean to criticise them at all --- i am just sort of at a loss (never having had one) to imagine what they are about or how they work.

[dnasims]

When I went o school in fifth grade, they grade very small sex education class

It was just very basics and all we really did was change books from male to female.

They gave boys’ books with pictures of men’s organs and stuff and the girls’ ones with female body organs and how they would change.  Therefore, we traded books.

I had this very limited class in fifth grade but in the second grade if we stayed in at recess their were to girls who would strip for us.  One of theses girls even  ( some text removed)

I of course had no idea what she was doing.


So when would we start this sex education?  The fifth grade was why to late I had already been (some text removed)

Having been threw all of this and being a parent now, I would have to say I feel that the sex education should be up to the parents.

However, the parents must do it and make kids feel free enough that they can ask anything.

I have a lot of problems  with my children but I think they can ask me anything, and if I see so thing that I know my raise questions I stop and explain it before it comes up.

When my son was in first grade, he had third graders calling them all queers.  He came to me and asked and I explained.

This was a little harder than it sounds because my sister is a homosexual.

He had seen them together and my sister had a life partner.  I did not want to make him see her in a negative way, however I did want him to understand that I do not think this is the correct way to go.


Point is we must do it as parents no matter how uncomfortable it is so the schools will not have to.

Just my opinion
Dan Sims

Dear Dan

I felt some text were inappropriate for this forum. I believe it was written unintentionally. Therefore, I removed only few sentences. Your post and opinion is highly appropriated.

[farrah]

I read somewhere  that in USA,at age 5 they have all the questions and by age 16 they have all the answers.
 
In USA there is no control over many things. There are laws for kids,they  are handed information where to call if abused by parents. Even if I beat my kids they never thought of calling that phone number because they understand the situation. But some kids can call the Helpline. In the past beating was considered part of discipline now it is called  ABUSE. Result is obvious: early pregnancies,crime rate is very high among teen agers. And Muslim children are not exception.